“Also, you have used excerpts from the Daily Express to illustrate points

Comment on General Election 2010 Poll Results by Sarah in the Desert.

“Also, you have used excerpts from the Daily Express to illustrate points in your post – these are the facts you rely on;”

And as I previously stated (page 12)which you conveniently ignored..

“I read the Telegraph, the Times, the Guardian and the Independent. I felt that the Daily Express was more your cup of tea as you previously said “no thanks” to an article from the Telegraph.”

We have widely different political views so I thought it would be unlikely that you would accept anything from any rag I might read!

The quote for Abraham Lincoln, was in fact metaphorical rather than literal in that a summing up of Labours efforts to squeeze the rich until their pips squeak (coined by Denis Healy, Labour) is destructive of society and the fabric of society.

You jumped on this line in a literal interpretation with a “you’re barking up the wrong tree” along with previous jibes of the “people like you”. You’re obviously irritated with the whole capitalism and people taking a certain amount of responsibility for themselves point of view.

You remember the “how can you reconcile your statements”? Who else other than someone who is obviously rankled?

Unfortunately I did get drawn in momentarily, however, I really don’t take it personally as I don’t care because I came from nothing and I have accumulated much through sacrifice and hard slog not tax credits or council houses. I’m proud of what I achieved, proud of the fruits of my labours and proud of holding everything together when I could have easily laid down and let Labour give me one in exchange for my vote.

Lincoln actually stated “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.” – the right to the benefits of capitalism and the right to earn them.

“Labour is prior to, and independent of, capital” – without Labour there is no capital so if everyone does nothing then everyone gets nothing.

“I support investment and improvement of the NHS. What a shame you don’t appreciate the debate”

I don’t support throwing good money after bad (particularly when it’s not affordable) and I even went as far as putting my own idea of what the health service should encompass. Your response was pretty much that you took issue with most of what I proposed whilst acknowledging awareness of the merits of the French and Canadian systems (which it was based on among others!).

“That section wasn’t even aimed at you, so can I suggest you get over yourself.” What a laugh – you replied to my post!
“A child dies every 30 seconds from malaria. This could be prevented by a basic mosquito net. How angry are you about that?” – sorry, so who is the “you” here?

People are upset about the EU because they don’t have a choice in it and the EU can impose laws not compatible with British Law against the will of the elected Government and the will of the people.