“I can’t believe you feel that we need international protection from our

Comment on General Election 2010 Poll Results by David.

“I can’t believe you feel that we need international protection from our own government, just in case we get “nutty” one ;your example being UKIP.”

I didn’t mean to label a UKIP coalition government as nutty :-) I can see I associated the example with the earlier statement, wasn’t meant to. Was just an example of how on some important matters EU laws protects us from a new government making wide sweeping changes without a mandate: would be nice if we had more protection as then we wouldn’t have complaints about the Lisbon treaty for example if the government had to consult the people when they change an election pledge.

You do realise what you said here

“Can you really argue that while protecting a Labour government that has grossly misled the public as a means for profitable war.”

Is then contradicted by:

“While we pay the price in lives and billions of pounds in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

If the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were supported for profitable reasons, how can it also cost us billions? If it’s profitable, we’d be making billions, right?

Don’t assume I support the management of the wars. At the time I supported them, but that was based on the assumption the governments in charge (US government and ours to a lesser degree) would have intelligent people involved in the planning and wouldn’t take twice as long as the second world war to get things kind of right!

The Iraq and Afghanistan wars were so mismanaged it’s an embarrassment to every country involved! The concept of taking 9 years to realise to get our troops out of Afghanistan we need an Afghan army to take the place of the coalition forces would be laughable if it wasn’t such a fatal flaw in planning!

So I support the concept of those wars, the intelligence pointed to WMDs in Iraq and Saddam Hussein wasn’t following the UN resolutions. In hindsight the intelligence was apparently wrong, but you can’t make decisions on hindsight and at the time I supported that war, but never imagined it would be managed by the equivalent of the three stooges!

Afghanistan was promoting international terrorism and so something needed to be done. Knowing the background of Afghanistan (Russia couldn’t beat them), invasion wouldn’t have been my first choice! They’d have been better off promoting other countries to deal with the issue or bombing terrorist bases etc… way before invasion should have been put on the table.

David