Much of defence procurement gets ruined by officials civil servants becoming too involoved, changes to projects while underway with reports on top of reports for yet more reports. British industry was competitive and can be again. Shipbuilding will be one of the main areas, because of the labour years, we saw not many ships built and an unbalanced program due to the government destroying the Navy, many yards had not built ships for sometime. With warship orders, no conditions were given to invest these some of these sums of money into really good effecient production equipment, indeed many of our yards look like they are from the 30s, and that’s not good enough. Labour rates are very competitive, with only Romania being cheaper in Europe, and that’s no reason to build ships there. In Japan they are far more expensive and even South Korea is not far behind. But hourly rates is a different thing, the production in Britain needs to be addressed, once it has, there we will see big changes including some game changing technology in which Countries that have a little higher labour rates benefit more so. In fact we should be looking to export more to the world rather than importing. BAE as one contractor is a problem. For example, they build the Darings ships and probably dictate over the real expensive equipment, like electronics and other systems (a hull is about 1 third the overral price). If we had another good effecient yard, say Pallion back in building ships and A&P Tyne, with a re-built modern Swan Hunters and they worked together as a balance to BAE, would this not keep BAE on their toes? UKIP’s policies make sence, and to poo poo them is to do nothing, and carryon as we are, and that is not exceptable.