Also see the BNP Manifesto 2010. The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right political party with strong racist and fascist roots. Formed as a splinter group from the racist/fascist National Front by John Tyndall in 1982. Until 2009, when the BNP was challenged in the courts on grounds of racial discrimination, it restricted membership […]
Continue Reading Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
For those who suspected that this thread has been infitrated by the (UAF/stop the BNP) then this link will prove it.
As someone who supports neither the BNP or the (UAF/Stop the BNP) I find what the UAF do is very counter productive.
For a start the (UAF/Stop the BNP) make me choose sides, and even though I detest the BNP I would gladly choose them over the undemocratic UAF anyday.
It amuses me that their whole point of being is to oppose the BNP on every single policy. Look at what vote no to BNP is posting, he tries to to discredit every single policy.
Well well done VNTBNP, its not hard to do is it, but guess what it’s also easy to discredit every Labour policy, or every single Tory policy.
If the UAF/Stop the BNP are serious, then perhaps they should actually form a political party themselves rather than existing to change how people vote. It would be interesting to see how popular they really are, though if they did there is a strong chance that the BNP would out perform them nationally and that would be a bitter pill to swallow.
Better to carry on with the spoiling tactics I suppose, rather than to actually do something constuctive.
The BNP and Stop the BNP are pathetic, go get a life.
View Comment
That’s exactly what politics is all about isn’t it? surely showing people how policies won;t work (from any party) is the whole point of politics.
If you can’t allow people to debunk other parties policies then we are no longer democratic we become a dictatorship.
It’s politics, the whole idea is to show the opposition that their polices won’t work and attract voters to your side.
So if people want people to vote for the BNP then they should be convinceing people that the BNP policies will work in the country, not just making childish threats, I have had 14 threats of violence from BNP Supporters because they can’t show haow the BNP Policies will work and they get angry and threten me because show them how the polices WON’T work and they can’t handle it.
In politics people don;t just accept what you say you have to prove it with evidence.
The BNP just scream out all the figures are rigged only the BNP know the real facts, yet they can never produce the real facts.
That’s no political debate that demanding through threat of violence that you agree with them, this is Britain and it doesn’t work like that here.
View Comment
Let me throw a small spanner in your “infiltrated by the (UAF/stop the BNP)” argument.
I own this website and I’m anti-BNP, I don’t belong to any political groups, I like running website’s and have an interest in politics, I also vote at every election. Not for one minute did I see what has happened to this site occurring!
I made this site because I’m concerned the Tories will gain power next general election (I’m a Labour voter) and that worries me, I remember what they were like under Thatcher!
I was hoping for open discussions on politics generally, not just the BNP and immigration.
When Nick Griffin was invited on Question Time I made a post about it on the site and through my research found a Facebook group (called Say no to the BNP on Question Time” that IMO was filled with UAF members/supporters (I wasn’t too sure who the UAF were at that point). I felt strongly about Nick Griffin appearing on Question Time and argued against the UAF trying to stop Nick Griffin appearing on Question Time. Almost 1 million votes in a democratic election gives a party a mandate to speak for those people, my arguments fell on deaf ears, one UAF member even said “You seem to be acting a bit like a fascist sympathiser, I must say.”!
Because I was posting on an anti-BNP Facebook group and linking to this website, pro BNP supporters picked up on the general election poll and on multiple website’s Facebook groups (pro BNP) they posted a link to this poll asking their readers to vote BNP (which they have). And some have become regular commenter’s.
The link to the poll is being regularly posted on pro BNP website’s, the same is not true on anti BNP website’s or general political sites. This has resulted in far more pro BNP visitors than I expected considering the numbers who voted BNP in the EU elections. Basically there’s the ‘normal’ visitors coming in through search engines like Google, who are voting for Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dems etc… in the poll (few of these visitors are commenting!) and then pro BNP supporters who are mostly entering the site via links from pro BNP website’s and they are voting BNP in the poll and commenting.
To suggest this site has been infiltrated by UAF/Stop the BNP members is a joke! It’s the other way around, it’s the pro BNP supporters who first took over the comments on this site and it gave a one sided picture to the sites ‘normal’ visitors, so I went to another Facebook group (not the one filled with UAF supporters) that was anti-BNP, but not specifically UAF pro and asked for help in balancing the arguments here.
Now the arguments are more balanced the pro BNP commenter’s are complaining and saying anyone against the BNP must be a UAF member which is a little naive to say the least!
The pro BNP commenter’s are getting beaten in a fair exchange of political ideas and arguments. Isn’t that what politics is all about, if your arguments and ideas are better than your opposition, you usually win the argument?
David
View Comment
I think the posting on the “facebook” site proves what most thinking people who have posted on here now believe,vntbnp & simon are uaf supporters who think that by flooding this site with repeated attacks will persuade some people that BNP are bad. The time & effort put in by these 2 & vntbnp in particular make me suspect that they are employed by an organisation to do just that! So their snouts are definately in the trough and like the rest of the lying, corrupt lib/lab/con traitors, NO credence can be given to their utterings!
Its a bit surprising when one sees the supposedly IMPARTIAL site organiser blatently express anti BNP views as well, perhaps, like many in the lib/lab/con elite, he is alarmed to find that the ORDINARY BRITISH voter is becoming totally fed up with the way all the major parties have been selling our birthright out to the EU & flooding OUR country with UNWANTED immigrants, whilst wasting Billions of pounds of our hard earnt taxes on doing this!
View Comment
And people say that BNP Supporters are NOT patanoid, damn reading that i’d seriously have to disagree.
Paranoid is an understatement I think.
I am voting for the BNP………… never voted before but labour have really messed this country up and lied about referendums, Conservatives are the same as the Lab/Libdems etc
The BNP is now accepting minority voters so its more accesable for everyone, I have 73 family members and friends who like myself have never voted, most of us are in our 30’s+ but we are voting next year for Nick Griffin and the BNP.
View Comment
WOW I’m impressed with how you’ve canvassed your 73 family members and friends of their political opinions despite never having an interest in politics until recently.
I couldn’t tell you the political opinions of 10% of the people I know because it rarely comes up in conversation, especially when those people (like you and your 73 family members and friends) have little interest in politics.
Conversation goes something like this:
Who do you vote for?
I don’t vote, it’s a waste of time.
Nice weather we are having….
Yep, you make a very credible and believable case there Gary.
Did I mention my real and not made up million strong fan club who have never voted before have decided, just yesterday, to vote next general election, we’ve all decided to vote for the Legalise Cannabis Party, being high at the time it made complete sense ;-)
What a numpty!
David
View Comment
Make it 74 Gary i will be joining you.
To “simple” simon the uaf prat, the welsh for Police is HEDDLU, not Hedlu which is a place in new mexico, to vntbnp, its DISSENT, not your pathetic attempts at spelling the word!
Once again I no longer bother to try and count the number of ludicrous posts by vntbnp especially as I’m sure he believes, (no doubt as taught in the uaf/common purpose school of propaganda) that if he continues to pollute the site with enough of his verbal diarrhoea, some gullible fools will believe him! The thinking people here will, having looked around our country, realise that he is desperately trying to defend the indefensible, that OUR country is being beggared by lying, treacherous, corrupt, politicians and their fellow travellers, flooded by UNCHECKED immigration, and having its sovereignty given away to bureaucrats in Europe!
Perhaps the biased site owner should give “vntbnp” his own special site, where he can continue his pathetic rantings, whilst allowing normal people to contribute sensibly!
View Comment
Good lord you are boring same of crap, no real debating points just mindless crap from an obviously uneducated pratt with nothing else to bang on about than immigration, immigration, immigration …… yawn
Why don’t you try and raise your level above brainless insults and come up with something to debate, your life must be so scary if you have to be this angry all the time.
There is far more to life than rage and anger you know, and to be frank you are not doing much to forward the BNP aims by just ranting off at anyone that uses their right to disagree with you.
The more people watch you just drop your rattle and go off on one everytime someone says they don’t like the BNP you just show people your real attitude and actually serv the anti-BNP groups far better than you serv the BNP cause.
Think about that one before you launch your next mindless rant.
View Comment
votenotobnp
you said
“Good lord you are boring same of crap, no real debating points just mindless crap from an obviously uneducated pratt with nothing else to bang on about than immigration, immigration, immigration …… yawn”
Funnily enough I thought exactly the same about yourself and simon. Just that you bang on about the bnp are racists, the bnp are this & that. And anyone supporting the bnp, you try to discredit with your uaf propaganda.
View Comment
Actally I will correct you, I defy you to find one post on here where I call ANY BNP Member/Supporter a Racist, NOT something I have ever done nor do I intend to do so.
I find fault with BNP policy and point those faults out, race and racism is a road I don’t go down.
With a name like VoteNo ToBNP your obviously not here for a “debate”.
Money where the mouth is time, you claimed I call people racist NOW prove your statement, if you can’t do that I expect an appology for “making it up”.
So I will expect the appology then I am know 100% I have NEVER called anyone here racist.
And the user name describes my objection to the BNP, it doesn’t make me incapable of debate, lets see you offer up a point of debate (and NOT immigration it’s been done to the death), and lets enter in to an adult debate, lets see if you can do that.
View Comment
This must be a first, but for once I actually agree with VoteNo ToBNP as it saddens me to see what could be ideal platform for the BNP to get its policies acroos degenerate into a slanging match.
The popularity of the BNP has benefited enormously by the rantings of the mainstream parties and the media in a desparate attempt to stop people seeing what the party is all about. A point highlighted perfectly by Nick Griffins appearence on question time.
By resorting to name calling and slanging matches one is stooping down to their level and actually confirming in the eyes of many people the false illusion that the BNP are mindless thugs, as illustrated by the overnight increase in votes for the Conservatives.
I have met many BNP supporters (I am one myself and I am not ashamed to say so)and found them to be normal decent law abiding people who just happen to be extremely concerned about the direction successive governments have, and continue to take our country.
While the media focus on immgration as if it was the BNP’s only policy, their is a lot more to its manifesto which people need to be aware of so that they can get a full unbiased picture of what the party represents and what is happening to this country.
Policies and beliefs which I have debated (quite heatedly at times) with VoteNo ToBNP in previous posts without having to resort to slanging matches.
I also have to agree with VoteNo ToBNP, much to my sorrow and dispair, that the Conservatives look like being the next government. There again, I suppose we reap what we sow
View Comment
Well the answer is an easy on UK, if the BNP Cyber Activist team (who we knoe exists because there is a special section on the BNP website dedicated to the subject) actuall got more involved in debate on policy and put forward valid arguments to show the policies would work maybe people would see a different side to the BNP.
But if you look at the majority of websites where the BNP Activists/Supporters hang out the majority of them are full of people that just want to reduce the debate to the level of name calling and threats.
The other parties don’t have teams of people going around websites screaming and shouting racist etc, now I also agree that their are certain groups of non BNP voters that do in fact do that but they are not incouraged to do so by the parties concerned, they do that by personal choice and I 100% DISGAREE with these types of tactics, they serv NO purpose what so ever.
In fact if anything they add to the voter apathy we have in the UK, if people see a constant stream of childish arguments and name calling sessions they just look at them and dismiss it regardless, and maybe even look at it and say there is no point in voting because they are all the same.
If people really want people to get out there and vote then they need to concentrate on policy, and to be honest all the video people post (including me) unless they have anything to do with policy are a waste of time anyway.
The people out there who are looking for who they may want to vote for want to see detail on whether certain policies WILL or WILL NOT work in the country.
So it’s the job of people like us who use outlets like this to convince the voters that the policies we support individually WILL WORK, and that can ONLY be done by real debate and not decending into mindless drivel, we end up looking like a bad Primeministers Questions session other wise.
So lets get stuck in to real debate and cut out the rubbish.
View Comment
It’s simple, successive governments of Conservative and Labour, have led us to the break down in society we see today, Pride, Envy, Gluttony, Lust, Anger, Greed and Sloth. The seven deadly sins all committed by our current members of parliament, that’s why we need change and the BNP will sort this evil out.
View Comment
The true face of the BNP:
In the following video you can clearly hear a group of non-white people being told that certain party members do NOT want them in the BNP, however they would allow a Swedish National (not a British passport holder) to join the BNP, but then again is is white and blond.
So have they really changed? will the real BNP members accept this new all inclusive policy? it doesn’t look like it from the video evidence does it.
But remember this was after “The Historic” vote at the BNP conference to change the membership policy, so seems the party faithful (normal non voting members) are still against this change.
View Comment
Read the comments from the general public on that news report.
Mostly in support of the BNP.
How will the three old partys manage when their trough is taken away?
Vote BNP
Save Britain
But that’s exactly your problem isn’t it, if you DON’T let the Non-Whites join then you cease to be a legal party under British law, and again UKIP get the upperhand as they don’t have this membership policy in their way do they.
If the members who are about to vote on the membership issue vote NO the BNP are knackered anyway, so it now depends on the BNP hardliners to change the rules and let the Non-Whites join or the BNP comes to an end.
And juding by the film above it doesn;t look likely that the main members are going to vote in favour.
So again UKIP scores a victory over the BNP because they are again seen as far more acceptable than the BNP we don;t get stories like this in the press about UKIP or any other party for that matter.
Can you at least see the point I am trying to make, the BNP doesn’t do it’s self any favours they knew they were being filmed yet they still allowed the guy to say “I don’t want you people in my party”
Surely Barnbrook being the elected one should have handled it with a politicians head on, but no he stayed inside and left it to someone else.
View Comment
“How will the three old partys manage when their trough is taken away?”
Well easy answer really, it isn;t going to be is it, the BNP are not fielding enough candidates in the next election to take power.
They are planning to field around 200, no where near enough to take control of Government (that’s assuming all those 200 get elected which is unlikely).
View Comment
Ok here is a question then;
For the people that are voting based on membership of the EU and cutting immigration:
Both UKIP and the BNP are calling for leaving Europe, but the key differences between the two are:
1. UKIP are saying stop immigration for five years
2. UKIP have from what I see actual workable real world policy (that won’t create a protectionist state etc)
3. The BNP want a full stop on immigration (no fixed period etc)
4. The BNP want to create a protectionist state in the UK which history shows never works.
5. Unlike all other parties the BNP have NO policy for repaying the countries current almost £1 trillion debt.
For the people voting on the EU and Immigration which party is the better answer BNP or UKIP.
In my opinion if I were voting on just those issues I would vote UKIP.
View Comment
taken from Hateriotism: A Guide To Ethnic Inferiority, by The BNP
Rating Your Hating:
————————-
An idiot once wrote ‘All men are created equal.’ He wrote this, while a black slave brought him his pipe and slippers, and then washed his bollocks for him, with a face-cloth (probably). All men are NOT created equal, and women even less so. Similarlily, all Ethnic Minorities are not the same. The way we see things at the BNP, the darker your skin, the less right you have to be here.
http://www.facebook.com/notes.php?subj=515872536&start=40&hash=7dbc9a70a402c6bc7aec5dd409389ed9#/note.php?note_id=111481704602
VOTE BNP and Get Them Out
View Comment
OMG… please someone tell me this is joke?
Who knows with these people Sarah
I truly hope so, much to my shame I did chuckle, just a little bit…
I’m not racist, honest, ok I don’t like clowns, they make me shiver!
David I notice you have put nice little avatars next to each poster.
Is it linked to a persons IP address as I notice that the avatar for “BMP all the way” is the same that for “VoteNo ToBNP” and it is the first time I have seen an avater duplicated on this site.
If so then it smacks of desparation to try and halt the BNP’s increasing ratings
View Comment
As I don’t have a static IP address then that’s unlikely.
And beside please even you can;t think I would stoop so low as to bother making this kind of thing up?
You know I like a good debate not pointless stuff.
My question was to david (moderator)
(your facebook friend) pmsl
UK Forever
The same avatar (pic) means using the same email address.
Weird “VoteNo ToBNP” and “BMP all the way” are using the same email address!
I get access to commenter’s IP address, email address and name used. Since there’s no login system for comments (no password) the email address and name can be anything and if you know what you are doing you can make it look like your are someone else to a casual viewer.
Also the images aren’t hosted on this site, they are located at gravatar.com that can be used by all WordPress blogs. I think if you use the same email address on all WordPress sites you comment on you get the same image.
On the comment in question at first sight it does look like it’s VoteNo ToBNP as the email address is the same as that used for all VoteNo ToBNP’s comments, but looking closer I’m 99% sure it’s not VoteNo ToBNP who posted the comment.
VoteNo ToBNP’s IP’s are not static, but since he/she appears to always use the same ISP to log in to the site, the IP range is always similar. The poster of the “BMP all the way” comment’s IP isn’t even a UK IP address, it’s posted from a proxy server.
Now unless VoteNo ToBNP was smart enough to use a proxy (to hide the IP), but not smart enough to change the email address (which is very easy to do, it doesn’t even have to be a real address), it’s highly unlikely he/she posted the comment.
If I was into conspiracy theories I might think someone who dislikes VoteNo ToBNP and knows his/her email address and how WordPress works has tried to discredit him/her quite subtly. I’m surprised anyone noticed the avatars matching, some of you guys are paranoid!
David
View Comment
Thanls for checking this out David, I have remained silent on the subject un till you had the chance to have a look.
Now I will change the email addy (I was using a real one well known to people as its an anti-bnp email addy I have, it has been posted on serveral pro-bnp sites in the past.
So in futire I will use an UNKNOWN email address that I have that no-one knows about because I only use it as a dummy account for collecting crap junk mail that I can’t be arsed to read.
But I have no doubt the paranoid BNP people will still keep commenting on it, but I can’t help people paranoid tendancies it’s something BNP supporters are well known for aling with the insistance on Conspiracy theories like the NWO etc.
But thanks anyway David for looking at it and giving your opinion based on the data you have to hand.
View Comment
David (moderator)
Just a quick question,
user “BMP all the way” and “VoteNo ToBNP” have the same picture.
Is that just coincidence?, you have run out of new pics?, or the same email address?
just testing if my pic is the same
To David the site owner,
This poster “BMP all the way” is obviously an agitator and not representative of the true BNP supporters you have had visiting and posting on this site.
None of them have posted in this way.
As you are Owner/Moderator of this site I request you ban this person and remove his racist post.
View Comment