Also see the BNP Manifesto 2010. The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right political party with strong racist and fascist roots. Formed as a splinter group from the racist/fascist National Front by John Tyndall in 1982. Until 2009, when the BNP was challenged in the courts on grounds of racial discrimination, it restricted membership […]
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How do the women who support the BNP or the men for that matter feel about the following BNP Policies from the 2007 Mini manifesto:
BNP Policies Against Women:
The BNP 2007 Mini Manifesto states the following as policy:
1. Implement a regressive taxation system that will re-establish women as dependents of their husbands.
2. Repeal protection of witnesses in rape cases and reform family law to benefit men.
3. Remove the right to choose to have an abortion.
Do you feel setting back womens rights is a good thing? can you really support a party that is willing to treat women as 2nd class citizens making them dependent on men?
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Whoever wrote this crap needs to go back home and do his homework and present an opinion in an,UNBIASED WAY,idiots like you are still tryimg to divert support away from the BNP using the words racist and fascist,this is old hat and very boring,…BNP are realists not racists;racist definition;someone who thinks their race is superior to others,ie hitler,or another defination their ideaology is superior; ie communism,most of the Labour cabinet,and baroso of the EU are communists,what do you think has been happening in this country since the mid 60’s or have you been asleep,another defination of racism is thinking ones religion is superior to others.Islam is the biggest threat to europe since ww2.
Only one party stands up for the people of britain,who are patriotic and have the backbone to get out of the EU, stop wasting money on foreign aid,and restart real british industry.
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I wrote the above Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election article.
It is based on the BNP Wikipedia entry with additions from the BNP manifestos and policy pages. I’m confident it’s an accurate article.
If you’d like to point out what parts of the article aren’t true, I’d be happy to debate those points with you.
For example it’s a fact the BNP is a “far-right political party” that was “Formed as a splinter group from the racist/fascist National Front by John Tyndall in 1982” which gives the BNP “strong racist and fascist roots”. That’s all true, right?
Is it not true the BNP believe in a lot of conspiracy theories?
Or under a BNP government British voters would loose their right to vote if they refused to do military national service?
Or maybe you disagree that “The BNP under Nick Griffin wasted 10s of thousands of pounds of their members fees on fighting their illegal whites only membership policy through the courts”?
Please, point out what I got wrong?
Please supply facts (references would be nice), not just because you said so!
David
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In answer to.. Please, point out what I got wrong? Firstly using wikapedia as a reference,!!!! contact your local BNP representative and talk to him/her and attend their meetings then I will debate with you on a level playing field.To answer one point you raised “mistake”(The BNP under Nick Griffin wasted 10s of thousands of pounds of their members fees on fighting their illegal whites only membership policy through the courts”?)The elite parties have no real opposition except the BNP, the 3 main parties all are in cohorts together.Labours quango of ECHR led by the overpaid Trevor Phillips are out to destroy the BNP by dragging the BNP through the court system,your inference that the members have “wasted their money is totally incorrect,the opposite is true,the ECHR have wasted millions of the TAXPAYERS money on trying to bankrupt a legal political party before a general election and when the BNP popularity is rising why did they choose now when they had 23 years in which to do so ,BNP base their policies on truth,knowledge and patriotism to the British people. I think everyone in this country would like to see a balance restored and that can only be achieved by having an effective opposition to the lefties/communists/new conservatives/ who have ruined our country over the last 40+years.
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BNP Supporters couldn’t form a valid argument to save their life. Is that the best argument you can come up with, Wikipedia isn’t 100% reliable source of information, seriously???
Note the article was BASED on the BNP Wikipedia entry, not a copy of the BNP Wikipedia entry. I also confirmed what I wrote from places like BNP manifestos.
Please, feel free to point out what I got wrong? I’m quite happy to change things if I made an error in my research (prove me wrong).
BTW your argument I can’t debate about the BNP without first “contact your local BNP representative and talk to him/her and attend their meetings”. Well dumb argument (nothing new there from a BNP supporter) by the same argument you can’t discuss “lefties/communists/new conservatives/” as you haven’t met them all.
More double standards, the BNP supporter can discuss anything he/she wants about politics, but I can’t discuss the BNP without first jumping through a few retarded BNP hoops to qualify my arguments with drivel from a local BNP representative first.
Would discussing BNP policies with people like Michael Barnbrook (BNP candidate) and Roger Phillips (Wales BNP Organiser) count? Neither of them did a particularly good job arguing for the BNP cause in the comments on my site. Michael Barnbrook for example refused to discuss the BNP policy of military national service or loose your right to vote. Notice you won’t discuss it either, why is that, do you not want to have to own a gun and do military service to keep your vote?
At least from your last comment you confirm the BNP think pretty much everything is a conspiracy theory.
Regarding BNP members money wasted on court cases the BNP couldn’t possibly win, which is great as it means the BNP have no money to campaign at the general election.
The BNP membership policy of white’s only membership is illegal in this country.
That’s a fact (care to argue that fact?).
They didn’t have a cat in hells chance of winning that court case (which is why they lost) and so they wasted their members money fighting a case they could not win.
Not only that they showed that deep down the BNP have not changed, we live in a multicultural Britain, not pre 1950’s white Britain. The BNP now say they are no longer against hard working black British people, but fought in the court to deny them entry into the BNP as members. Why?
Add to this the money wasted not following the courts directions, something like £12,000 was wasted in one day because the BNP didn’t have the white’s only membership policy changed before the end of February 2010 and so the court had to give them more time which meant the BNP had to pay court costs.
£12,000 would be 24 BNP candidates deposit paid. On the BNP site under news they publish BNP fund raising events as awesome when they raise a few hundred quid. They could have had 24 more candidates at the next general election had the BNP organised a simple members vote a few weeks earlier than they did (they had months to organise it). I bet with the money they wasted on that one court case the BNP could have fielded another 100+ candidates at the general election instead of the 200 candidates they said thy will filed (there are 650 seats, the BNP will apparently contest only 200).
To Vote No To BNP (our resident BNP expert who I’m sure will read this :-)) do you know roughly how much the BNP wasted in total on that one court case?
I can not get over how politically and financially incompetent they are, it’s hilarious. The BNP do more damage to their own cause than every single UAF activist put together.
I look forward to Ys To BNP proving me wrong and arguing what parts of my article is not accurate/truthful. I won’t hold my breath though :-)
David
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David your arguments are flawed beyond reasoned debate,I can’t be bothered to carry on talking to a leftie who has nothing better to do than destroy Britain,and kick peolpe below the belt you are probably one of cameroons UAF so there is no point in talking to you
I spend my time talking to people who are interested in a better britain by voting BNP and compared with a year ago the elitist twits really do have something to fear.So get out more,think outside the box and get a life and think what will britain will be like in 20 years time
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No worries Ys To BNP I understand you don’t have the skills to debate with me. It’s what I’ve come to expect from the average BNP supporter.
If you change your mind feel free to pick a political subject and say your bit.
Anyone seriously considering voting BNP, just note when the serious BNP supporters are offered the chance of reasoned debate on a forum thousands of people read every day they run and hide like scared little children who have been caught out telling porkies.
Quite pathetic really.
Could you imagine people like this trying to fight your corner at even local level, they crumble under minimum pressure.
Michael Barnbrook for example who is a BNP candidate (spoke to him via the comments here, appears to be a nice old man) and supposedly the BNP’s big sleaze buster (big important figure in the BNP regarding MP expenses) complained I was tiring him out by asking him to participate in debate here (no one forced him to comment here).
Just like Ys To BNP, Michael Barnbrook just wouldn’t debate about anything really, take a read of his response to being asked about military national service and loosing the right to vote.
Pretty much similar to what you are saying Ys To BNP. You both refuse to debate. Why is that?
I’m not that into politics either, (check my very early comments from 6 months ago, I didn’t have a clue) I own about 100 web sites and this is my very first one about politics (have to admit I’m enjoying it).
I’m not some seasoned political commentator or anything who can easily wipe the floor with an unprepared politician, the likes of David Cameron, Gordon Brown, Nick Clegg etc… would wipe the floor with me in debate and I know it.
I’m just like the vast majority of middle Britain who have enough interest in politics to vote every time and care enough to get involved a little bit through this website (I’m not a member of any political groups for example).
To deal with the BNP supporters constantly commenting on my site I’ve had to learn a lot about the BNP over the last 6 months or so. Before that didn’t care to know anything beyond what I got from the media about the BNP (which is mostly true).
David
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david i do have the skills but i can’t be bothered to waste them on you,you don’t have any skills,you are probably unemployed,sucking off the state,and get a hard on slagging off the BNP,sad really,you are not in power so what’s the point in talking to you,i hope that sounds racist,one serious question though which i would like to answer honestly is;what has the BNP done to you to make you hate them so much,
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If you don’t plan to engage in reasoned debate stop posting comments on a politics site that’s here for reasoned debate.
Typical BNP supporter stupidity.
Just admit it, you can’t prove any of my arguments against the BNP as wrong.
When you learn anything beyond the classic BNP party line of it’s all the immigrants fault and everything is a big conspiracy, talk to me then.
Oh and had you read a bit more of my site you’d know I’m self employed, not unemployed like your average BNP supporter who can’t form a valid argument or keep down a job.
Speaking of jobs. Watched Newsnight the other night and there was a business owner from Lincolnshire on talking about why he employs foreign unskilled workers when there’s more than enough British born workers theoretically available to do the work.
The issues were.
1. The foreign workers who get off their back sides and travel hundreds of miles to work here are hard working. There are lazy people in places like Poland for example, but the lazy ones aren’t exactly going to travel all the way here to work picking vegetables all day for piece rates, just like lazy British people don’t travel abroad to find a job.
2. British workers aren’t willing to do that type of hard manual work for low wages. I disagree with this point, but then it’s not may argument it’s the Lincolnshire business owners argument. The sort of work is piece work, but because we have a national minimum wage if a worker slacks of they still earn the national minimum wage and so it costs the business owner more to hire lazy British workers. Again not may argument, but if this is the perception business owners have of British workers in that type of industry….
3. The current benefits system makes it hard for British workers to take these types of job. These are seasonal jobs that require a flexible work force. Basically the employer will hire a group of people to pick fruit or vegetables for a relatively short period of time (weeks to months) and it’s difficult for British people on JSA etc… to take short time work. No idea if this is all true, but it did make some sense. If this is true the government needs to make it easier for unemployed people to take on short term work.
David
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David, it is a fact that Labour (and Tory) have handed our sovereignty over to Europe without a referendum.
It is a fact that they have flooded Britain with imigrants.
It is a fact that they have involved us in wars that have nothing to do with us.
It is a fact that unemployment and crime are both very high.
It is a fact that they have failed Britain, and the British people.
It is a fact that they have no idea what they are doing.
I don’t suppose the BNP will do any better, but by their very existence they have proven that this country is no longer a fair and democratic country, and they have proven that you and your site are not fair and democratic either.
I prefer the BNP to the undemocratic and anti-British bigots who are always deriding them without just cause.
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I wouldn’t go quite as far as you put it, Labour/Tories have not handed our sovereignty over to Europe, but I do agree we should have had a referendum before any serious power is moved to Europe.
I wouldn’t say flooded with immigrants, but agree they have let way too many unskilled worker in. Also the controls on our borders were lacking, still not perfect, (student visas are still a BIG issue) but improving. The government should have put controls on immigration much sooner, they always seem to be a couple of steps behind what needs to be done.
I pretty much agree with the sentiments behind these points (copied below), even though they aren’t completely true: some MPs know what they are doing (national minimum wage is good for ordinary British people for example) and they haven’t completely failed Britain (we are one of the top countries for attracting foreign investment), but could and should do much better for us.
“It is a fact that unemployment and crime are both very high.
It is a fact that they have failed Britain, and the British people.
It is a fact that they have no idea what they are doing.”
I don’t understand what you mean by:
“I don’t suppose the BNP will do any better, but by their very existence they have proven that this country is no longer a fair and democratic country”
I agree the BNP wouldn’t do any better, I think they’d do much worse. I don’t understand how the existence of the BNP proves “that this country is no longer a fair and democratic country”? Unless you are saying the BNP aren’t fair or democratic? I’d agree with that if it’s your point.
I honestly don’t care what you or any BNP supporters think of me or my site.
David
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The only real complaint I have about your site is this;
You use comments gleaned from who knows where, without being able to cite primary sources and promulgate it as fact. Hearsay, and data from unreferenced material is not fact. It is hypothetical at best or a pure fabrication at worst. Either way unreferenced material is worthless and cannot support any argument.
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“Either way unreferenced material is worthless and cannot support any argument.”
I wouldn’t quite go that far since the comments are for discussion not just for copying and pasting facts/statistics from other sources. That being said I do agree with you generally, commenter’s should reference anything they post as fact if they want it to be believable.
The comment you responded to which parts do you think I should have provided references for?
About the only statistic I mentioned (kind of) was
“we are one of the top countries for attracting foreign investment”
And I have referenced this in other comments I’ve made and wrote an article on it https://stallion-theme.co.uk/britain-attracts-foreign-investors-and-entrepreneurs/
“The report referred to is at Britain is ranked number 12 out of the 104 countries overall, which is pretty good IMO.”
Most of my comment was discussion and my opinion and didn’t require reference unless someone asked for one or disputed what I wrote.
Now the person I responded to (g.curtis) posted a list of “facts” with no referencing at all. g.curtis should have said IMO rather than fact as what he/she posted as facts are not facts, but opinion. Would be great if the odd BNP commenter would reference their sources, most spout a load of BS figures that make no sense at all.
David
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g curtis.Bnp WILL leave the Eu when elected
the eu,foreign aid,quangos,wasted wars and worst of all lives of our lads lost for nothing,to name a few cost us the british taxpayer approx 840 billion pounds a year plus the lives of our dear british soldiers who cannot be replaced.The taliban are not our enemy.can you imagine them coming over here if we weren’t there,all they are doing is defending there country from invaders,but are we allowed to defend our shores from the stealth of invaders? NO.The BNP will never surrender to invasion unlike the perverse,failed policies of multiculturalism,extreme left liberalism and the incorporation of the eu charter on human rights incorporated into british law in 2002 by the traitors in the labour party.I don’t think the BNP can do any worse than the elitist parties,i think they could buy enough bother boots to kick the likes of david and his UAF pervs out of this country and still have change out of £840 bilion.I’m sure that won’t cause offence
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“Bnp WILL leave the Eu when elected”
You know what would be awesome, if the BNP would voluntarily leave the EU now, can I suggest the North Pole where the landscape suits the BNP’s perfect world: it’s all white. I’m sure we could all do a quick whip round for the one way tickets and a generous repatriation grant for the few thousand true BNP people like yourself who hate Britain!
“i think they could buy enough bother boots to kick the likes of david and his UAF pervs out of this country and still have change out of £840 bilion.”
Good to see the real BNP still exist, if you can’t beat someone in reasoned debate, resort to violence! We live in 2010 multicultural Britain not 1930s Fascist Germany where the boot ruled!
David
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Is it possible you could give a link to the BNPs policy of National service ?
Wow.
You still believe the crap on Global Warming.
If you can’t even tell the truth about AGM/CLIMATE CHANGE SCAM how can anybody trust what you say on any subject and especially the BNP.
Typical Ignorance. I blame New Labours Education system for the DUMBING DOWN of people like yourself.
“I blame New Labours Education system for the DUMBING DOWN of people like yourself.”
How old do you think I am?
I was educated under a Conservative government, so blame them :-)
David
As stated by others earlier, same difference! As for “conspiracy theories” I suggest you do some serious research. True, there are of course some wild and spurious theories out there, but the internet makes it easy to check the facts for yourself. Maybe ask yourself why so much information, often supported with video evidence is conveniently ignored by the main stream media, especially the Orwellian B(Big) B(Brother) Corporation. The “conspiracy” guys have a plethora of valid research to support their theories. Check out David Icke who often states “Don’t believe me, check it out for yourself and draw your own conclusions” I strongly suggest people do that with the information being put forward by the BNP. Personally, I have my own opinions. I suggest we all do likewise. It would just be more useful if we did this without resorting to discrediting other people’s beliefs. I believe that right to be true Democracy. By the way, it’s spelt LOSE if it’s lost, LOOSE if it doesn’t fit.
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So you take information from Wikipedia and make decisions about the BNP based upon what you have read on Wiki.
That’s all that needs to be said.
You have NO CREDIBILTY, and you shot yourself in the foot.
No wonder this country is in rapid decline. Idiots are allowed to put foreward their uninformed point-of-view as FACT.
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Where do we get accurate British National Party facts from then? BNP website is filled with lies.
Already dealt with the Wikipedia argument at https://general-election-2010.co.uk/reasons-to-vote-british-national-party-bnp-2010-general-election/comment-page-31/#comment-4822
If you’d care to list what you think I got wrong and why, I’m up for the debate.
You’ll not be the first BNP supporter to say I got the Reasons to Vote British National Party article all wrong and didn’t say why, saying I’m wrong does not make it true, you have to actually prove why I’m wrong :-)
Prove me wrong and I’ll change it as I want it to be an accurate article about the BNP (I don’t want to intentionally mislead potential voters).
David
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The BNP’s National Service commitment is part of the BNP Defence policy which I have a full copy of at: https://general-election-2010.co.uk/bnp-policies-defence-no-more-cuts/ there’s a link to the original BNP Defence policy document on the page above.
“- Restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.”
As it’s only a mention of national service (the BNP don’t have a full 2010 general election manifesto yet) I dug deeper and the BNPs 2005 General Election Manifesto mentions it quite a bit.
I’ve uploaded a copy of the The 2005 BNP General Election Manifesto to my site at: https://general-election-2010.co.uk/bnp-manifesto/BNP-General-Election-Manifesto-2005.pdf as it’s not that easy to find online.
Under the BNP no military service = no right to vote.
Have I proved my point yet or does anyone want to deny this is from the BNP and I’ll keep posting this over and over again so pretty much every visitor to these BNP debate pages know the BNP are looking to remove their right to vote if they refuse to do military service?
Amazes me why candidates in areas where the BNP are a threat don’t use this sort of information, it’s far more powerful than the racist argument as lots of people are racist to some degree (people are selfish).
Fighting the BNP on immigration policy is fighting them on their strong ground as the British public like the simplicity of BNP immigration policy, they don’t care/understand that it’s bad for our economy and will cause mass unemployment or our standing in the world. If you don’t fully understand the issues and a BNP activists knocks on your door unannounced with a copy of Voice of Freedom after they’ve enquired with the BNP and are told something like.
The BNP will remove all the immigrants that are taking our jobs and council house, that means there will be a job for all British born people and many more council houses.
Simple argument for simple minds :-)
David
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