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Continue Reading Reasons to Vote British National Party : BNP 2010 General Election
Capitalising an entire comment, it’s generally not done on the Internet whether it’s comments, Usenet, Facebook, email… it’s considered shouting and rude. I have mentioned this before to the odd commenter, but I don’t want to be pointing out this sort of thing over and over again as it damages debate. After reading Crispin’s homophobic/racist response I checked all his comments and they all tend to be capitalised, hence the mention.
I’ll add I tend to ignore fully capitalised comments, they are almost always a waste of time reading. If a commenter doesn’t even have the intelligence to realise capitalising an entire comment is ignorant, they probably haven’t got a decent argument to make.
And just to make things clear, I’m not going to censor someone for capitalising, they do that to themselves, many won’t bother reading capitalised comments.
I don’t see how a well received three word comment “ENOUGH IS ENOUGH” that could mean anything is vindication of Cripin’s debating style?
I did spot the gaybour comment and considered bringing it up (very childish), but stopped reading the comment at that point because it was capitalised, see above. Decided to spend my time debating with those with enough respect not to capitalise every word (it’s bloody hard to read).
I’m not concerned at anyone attacking the student, he’s put his opinions online and like anyone else has to take any flak thrown his way. Based on the videos of his I’ve watched I’m sure he’s more than capable of defending himself in a debate.
My problem with Crispin’s comments are his obvious homophobia and racism, that’s it.
If he’d have called the student an idiot who’s talking out his ass, I’d have disagreed with him (if I had the time to), but I have no issue with that sort of opinion, I have a similar opinion for some commenter’s posting here, but try not to lower myself into slinging insults, it’s unproductive.
I was also a science student (what did you study? I studied genetics) and I’m not homosexual either and have to admit I feel a little uncomfortable with homosexuality, but I don’t see the point in homophobia?
I recall something funny a male mature student said to me when I was at Reading University at an OU summer school Maths course:
“I like homosexuals, means there’s more women for me” :-)
As a 19 year old heterosexual male, it made a lot of sense to me back then, it also made sense as we were studying Maths.
Wisdom does come with age, but sometimes the young have more wisdom than the old.
I agree the education system has been dumbed down, but you can not assume as Crispin is suggesting this student is therefore dumb. Based on his videos he clearly is not dumb.
I looked at the comments you refer to as being puerile, but I don’t see a problem? I haven’t read every comment (1,800 of them so far!!!), but I don’t recall reading another homophobic comment.
Excellent point you made with “you don’t win arguments by questioning the motives of your antagonist”, very well put.
Based on Crispin’s later comments, it’s becoming clear he’s trying to be confrontational for the sake of it. All I can say is it damages the BNP’s cause and supports the anti BNP arguments, so feel free to carry on mate.
David
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DAVID
PLEASE INDICATE WHERE I HAVE MADE ANY RACIST COMMENT OR STATEMENT.
YOU CAN’T
BECAUSE I HAVEN’T
LAST TIME I CHECKED, WRITING IN CAPITALS WAS JUST AS LEGIBLE AS LOWER CASE.
WHY NOT TRY AND DEAL WITH POINTS RAISED RATHER THAN AVOIDING THEM ?
Again who the **** Geert Wilders anyway? he isn’t a British Citizen or politician anyway so most voters couldn’t care less about him and won’t even bother watching it.
We are British we care about this country not what someone like Geert Wilders thinks who really gives a sh**? I know I don’t I want to vote for someone that will help this country and not hear about pointless things like Geert Wilders
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The video forgot to mention the Christians supporting the removal of the crosses. They feel that it would strengthen the Catholic faith.
The ones calling for the removal tend to be the atheists/secular humanists.
The Secular Humanists/Atheists are the biggest group in Europe.
Terence i agree with you,about a lefty idiot putting a photo of someones son who was 17 at the time on you tube,which could have had serious consequences,The father like any other would be spitting feathers.There would not be a jury in the land that would convict him if he said words that he may later regret saying.However a man who uses his rivals children as a weapon is ONE YELLOW COWARD.
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17 is not below the age of consent and therefore there is nothing remotely dodgy about the photo. He happened to be in a photo that his dad was in. Redwatch has photos of teenagers on it with the intention of having them beaten up. Anti-UAF groups stick up photos of school children for the same purpose.
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Having seen the video I think this Roger guy seriously over did it daft reaction to a YouTube video and if he did threaten to kill this guy then frankly he should be prosecuted as he has broken the law.
As for his son being in a pic OK I would tend to agree that the guy could have made an effort to blur his face but hey ho these things happen, and I have seen myself far more instances of the BNP and its support groups showing faces of children.
And this Roger Phillips is a prime example of that in his Wembley video he showed images of Asian kids well under 17 and made no attempt ot blur their faces so he has no right to complain really as he did the exact same thing himself
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the thing is we are talking of a fathers reaction to his son being put on view we all no how violent the UAF are .this is a natural out burst as can be expected, what the coward did knowing what the reaction would be was to entrap Roger, then instead off facing him like a man as any man would have done he went groveling to the Police with crocodile tears like a baby! SO ITS ABOUT HUMAN NATURE BRAVERY AND COWARDICE! ROGER HAD THE GUTS to confront this monster, the cowardly monster ran after causing the trouble to the police!
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Don’t you think you are over doing it a bit there?
“HUMAN NATURE BRAVERY AND COWARDICE! ROGER HAD THE GUTS to confront this monster, the cowardly monster ran after causing the trouble to the police! ”
How do you think that is going to be read by the greater public? simply the BNP Supporters backing up someone who broke the law.
You can’t just call the guy a monster have you heard the tapes? can you prove he’s lieing?
No you can’t so maybe best leaving the over egging comments un till we know exactly what the content of the recording is.
As you will note from my above post this guy did exactly the same thing exposing Asian kids to millions via the BNP website and the various other sites it hit, these kds didn’t ask to be in their either, see it from all sides, you should know damn well that Wembley video will be used in any potential court case against Phillips because he did the exact same thing with younger kids.
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entrapment is braking the law the man is a coward easy as that! roger over reacted yes he did no need for the police was there he we get death threats daily from Muslims fanatics very rare the police get involved, I was on the list of BNP members ! i was threated with burning my house down killing my family burning my car raping my wife police did nothing , even now i get the odd phone call with silence on the other end from a call box!i had it checked out! BNP venues are subjected to the same hate rants and threats /look at merseyside bnp you will see the result of a uaf attack !the police did not press charges although the person responsible was arrested on the spot charges dropped no independent witness
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Now I will answer that one with the exact same comment I have seen you using against other posters
You could be a iiar
See sometimes what you accuse others of being can come straight back at you, but the downside of this is the guy has a recording that’s evidence.
could be a liar but alas i wish i was It is not nice to be intimidated just for having a different political opinion rite or wrong My choice I will not be kowtowed nor will I be bullied! I will give you another incident! my self and 12 other people where arrested and put in jail for 13 and a half hrs solitary confinement. men from 35 to 72 yrs of age our homes were ransacked by the police. one man was beaten for refusing to give DNA another 72 year old had his medication denied! I was terrified have never been arrested b4. now it has made me more determined to fight this tyranny!the chief constable new we were not braking any law <we have been offered compensation of over £2000 up to now For this wrongful arrest
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So when other people on here have said they have been attacked or anything else by BNP Supporters/Members what then gives you the right to call them a liar?
Unless you actually know the ins and outs of everyone on this website you actually cannot call ANYONE a liar, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and said “Could Be” yet toy assume you have the right to call people a liar ……. you see where i’m coming from, so I actually think any right minded person would find the occassions where he said this and offer an apology to the people concerned.
Are you man enough to do that?
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you don’t seem to be coming from anywhere I can express my opinion and beliefs I can prove what i said ! i can yet give you another example of UAF lies! again I have two witnesses I called at a friends house by chance two men where their trying to recruit for the local gym! I started talking about the up coming E/U elections, when one of them started off with the usual UAF Crap! I beat him in the argument!he then stated “My girl friend is Chinese she lives local, and she has had her home attacked by the BNP”I nearly died laughing! i said “did she see them” !”YES” he said “so she would recognize them I said “”YES” he said! “rite i no every BNP member in the area ! i will take you and your girl friend around until we identify the culprit!I will drag them personally to the police” ! with that he walked out of the house red faced! his friend apologized and said “I am voting BNP i did not no he was like that” .is friend was his boss! he also said he would revue is position in work< i said "no he is just an idiot leave him alone he knows not what he does"
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The son was 17 years old.
Old enough to join the Army and can defend himself.
Unfortunately, enough of an idiot to join the BNP.
yes unfortunately it is young lads like him who do join the army sent to die for the likes of you. Who offer insult to our troops and our nation you are not English we can tell this by your rhetoric ! you think you can put the BNP down by discrediting and pulling holes in our policies, but we can all do that with any policy as well you no. so we just give you the state of the nation which is our concern not your obviously! VOTE BNP while you can only quisling will vote for more common purpose and the E/U super state full of very rich and extremely poor people
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Sorry but I haven’t seen ANYONE offer insult to our troops on this site, you can’t just assume that people are jeez get real no one insults our troops on this site.
If you are saying they do on other sites then make the comments their and don’t assume everyone is the same.
What insult would that be?
The British Army are the finest in the world. They would have been able to show the 17 year old, how the world works and not join the BNP.
You taking my posts and then answering out of context shows your limited intellect.
And Roger Phillips is far from innocent remember his Wembley video where he clearly showed faces of Asian kids WELL under 17 and made no attempt to obscure their faces from that video so he can’ talk really.
And he threatened to kill someone which is a crime whichever way you try ans twist it so tuff shit deal with it.
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You would think if the BNP were enjoying more support, they would have less time to post their vitriol online.
Just wondering how many BNP supporters are at home, on the dole, blaming immigrants for not getting that £50,000 job?
not many i can assure you ! aq lot are retired done 50 years like my self my father grandfather my son grand daughter paid tax tax tax ! but a pole in a [part of London with 80% immigration had one of the highest in Britain of scroungers
Understandable you can see them, they hardly speak the language.
They are still outnumbered by British born people who are on benefits. Along with their Televisions in every room, DVD players and Playstations.
All the while complaining about the immigrants.
They should get off their collective posteriors, get a qualification and get a job.
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Well it looks like the BNP Leadership are taking note (hopefully they listening) the Roger Phillips video has been removed from the website, I just hope this is a start towards kicking him out of the party.
Moderator: Please do not post under different names. ProudBrit and Voter2010 are same person.
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Right I see so many times on this and other websites flooded with BNP supporters, that they are growing in support and they will win this and that etc.
My question is this if you are so confident that you are growing in support why do you feel so threatened that you need to basically raid every political website or news website?
Where ever there is a story or website that can remotely carry BNP comments you are all their raiding it and filling it witn pro-BNP stuff, are you that insecure that you feel the need to ram BNP BNP BNP down everyone’s throat?
If the people of Britain have “Woken Up” as you keep saying why are you still running round all the sites jamming them with BNP this and BNP that?
Are you in fact not just trying to drum up more trade by flooding websites with the BNP?
Maybe the other parties don’t do it because they have confidence in the voting public to make their own choice?
It seem to me the BNP are trying to force people to trust them by the constant ramming of BNP down there throats every chance you get.
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Sorry Crispin I don’t even bother reading your comments, if you insist on blasting everything in caps to try to look as though its somehow more important than anything anyone else has to say I just skip straight past them and ignor tem.
And as for the BNP being a 2nd choice party GREAT they means millions won’t vote for them, but I still maintain that UKIP would actually be peoples 2nd choice party as they are far more acceptable than the BNP less bagage and un removeable history hence why they will get my vote not the BNP
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Moderator: I’m deleting some of Crispin’s comments and blocked his IP from the dedicated server that runs this site. Lively debate yes, but his comments are completely unproductive and not suitable for a young audience (kids might read this site).
hahahah UKIP are a fake front for the Tories, a safety valve to keep the BNP out
https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en-GB&q=lord+pearson+disband&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB335GB335&ie=UTF-8&gws_rd=ssl
Moderator: Please do not post under different names. Five names used today by this person: Sean, Shelly, Steve, Jerome, Shelly (different email addy = different Gravatar).
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“hahahah UKIP are a fake front for the Tories, a safety valve to keep the BNP out”
HAHAHA Sean is a fake front for the other 4 names he/she is using, guess that makes the comments irrelevant really then as they all from the same person :-)
u-kip are proven thieves set up by kilroy silk and the labor party to take votes from the only true opposition party the BNP!! it has worked up to now /due inpart to the millions spent on blue digital the American company that had Obama elected, to run a violent nasty dirty campaign against the BNP with lies and distortions of the truth in the left wing rags and the media!They spent 2 million pounds of tax payers money fighting to keep out ther BNP while making u-kip look o/k ! people have now seen through the lies and voting may swing to the BNP the party of truth as u-kip has failed them back stabbed them i am in contact with several u-kip voters one black all are voting BNP!
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mmmm lets see UKIP 13 MEPs …… BNP 2 MEPs ……. BNP votes 943,000 UKIP OVER 4,000,000 that’s MILLION not thousand.
So I doubt it really UKIP are still far more electable than the BNP and you can’t half tell you’ve attended your indoctrination session today
TO “Voter2010”
Right I see so many times on this and other websites flooded with BNP supporters, that they are growing in support and they will win this and that etc.
My question is this if you are so confident that you are growing in support why do you feel so threatened that you need to basically raid every political website or news website?
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ARENT BNP SUPPORTERS ALLOWED TO POST ON POLITICAL WEBSITES OR SUMMIN? OR WOULD YOU JUST PREFER IT TO BE A LIBERAL POINT OF VIEW LOL?
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Where ever there is a story or website that can remotely carry BNP comments you are all their raiding it and filling it witn pro-BNP stuff, are you that insecure that you feel the need to ram BNP BNP BNP down everyone’s throat?
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NO ONE IS RAMMING “PRO BNP STUFF” DOWN PEOPLES THROAT…PEOPLE NEED TO BE AWARE WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE COUNTRY AS MAIN STREAM MEDIA WON’T REPORT IT !!
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If the people of Britain have “Woken Up” as you keep saying why are you still running round all the sites jamming them with BNP this and BNP that?
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22 % POPULATION ARE CONSIDERING TO VOTE BNP
AND 59 % POPULATION BACK BNP POLICIES
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Are you in fact not just trying to drum up more trade by flooding websites with the BNP?
Maybe the other parties don’t do it because they have confidence in the voting public to make their own choice?
It seem to me the BNP are trying to force people to trust them by the constant ramming of BNP down there throats every chance you get.
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MAYBE THE LIB/LAB/CON REGIME DON’T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA PUMP OUT THERE PROPAGANDA FOR THEM !!
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“22 % POPULATION ARE CONSIDERING TO VOTE BNP
AND 59 % POPULATION BACK BNP POLICIES”
Running out the old stories again maybe if you looked at that poll only 4% actually said they WOULD vote BNP the rest said “consider” what we consider and what we do are very different things.
And judging by the recent by-election results where the BNP haven’t taken ANY further seats (in fact they have lost one)I would say that 4% was about right.
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@ MOD we are working in office same router :D
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voter2010
“22 % POPULATION ARE CONSIDERING TO VOTE BNP
AND 59 % POPULATION BACK BNP POLICIES”
Running out the old stories again maybe if you looked at that poll only 4% actually said they WOULD vote BNP the rest said “consider” what we consider and what we do are very different things.
And judging by the recent by-election results where the BNP haven’t taken ANY further seats (in fact they have lost one)I would say that 4% was about right.
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/ :D
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“@ MOD we are working in office same router :D”
Well I can prove that’s wrong myself Sean, because you’ll notice you have used the wrong email address you were using for Sean as the Avatar pic has now changed ….. ooops FAILED again pmsl
Sean you need more evidence of your failed ramble:
The Sky Article you quote is from 2006 (three years old)
“Sky Poll Shows Backing For BNP Policies
9:35am UK, Tuesday April 25, 2006 ”
Come on not really evidence of massive support for the BNP and the other article relates to the one I mentioned being that the break down works out that 4% said they would actually vote BNP more FAILS
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And here is a nice quote from the second article you referenced:
“In the poll for a British national newspaper the proportion of people who would vote BNP in an election tomorrow had risen to 3%, from 2% a month ago.
More than half of the 1,314 people polled said they agreed, or thought the party had a point, in ‘speaking up for the interests of indigenous, white British people’.
The poll indicates anti-BNP sentiment is strong among the majority of people with over two-thirds saying they would never vote for the party under any circumstances. ”
So I was being nice really, as actually only 3% said they WOULD vote BNP and I gave you 4% all well what’s 1%
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Theoretically possible, does that mean if I sent test emails to the 6 email addresses used, (you just used another unique email address, does this mean you have another Sean in your office?) you’d receive the emails and be able to respond back?
If the 5 people (6 if two Sean’s) in your office who remarkably tend to post with a similar style used real email addresses (and they don’t look ‘real’) I might believe you a little more than I currently do.
I’ve sent test emails to the 6 email addresses used from your IP and so far 4 have bounced back in under a minute (not real email addresses): can take days to bounce back, so 4 are certainly made up.
Why would you and your office friends make up similar email addresses (2X sean09@, jezza009@) just for posting comments?
Strongly suggests 5/6 names, but only one person.
Note: I’ve let others (mostly BNP supporters) get away with the odd extra post under a second name, where it’s a couple of posts under two names and they aren’t causing trouble (like responding to their own post). But nine comments under five different names in under 24 hours is going too far.
Please use just one name, I appreciate why you’d want your comments under multiple names, makes it look like you have more support for your cause, but it’s not very fair to others who don’t post under multiple names. When caught out it really does damage your arguments and I’d rather see strong reasoned debate win the day than being caught using dirty tricks.
David
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Nice response David, I would also suggest that it is slightly curious that six people in the same office are BNP supporters and choice to all post on the same site on the same day, I thought most BNP supporters where afraid to speak out at work let alone all post comments from work to the same site on the same day?
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Tut Tut Sean (or what ever your name is)
“Moderator: Please do not post under different names. Five names used today by this person: Sean, Shelly, Steve, Jerome, Shelly (different email addy = different Gravatar).”
And they say the BNP don’t raid and spam websites to block them out with BNP junk ….. FAIL
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Voter 2010 asks:
“… are you that insecure that you feel the need to ram BNP BNP BNP down everyone’s throat?”
Yes. Ordinary Britons trust no-one these days. We have been utterly betrayed by almost the entire membership of our parliament. We want home rule and NOT rule by a foreign power that is the EU.
Voter 2010 also asks:
“… Maybe the other parties don’t do it because they have confidence in the voting public to make their own choice?”
No. Other parties are grabbing what they can from the British public and jumping ship like the rats they are, heralding the new “post-democratic era”.
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VOTE BNP!!!!!!!
BRITAIN WILL BECOME BRITISH ONCE AGAIN.