“Entrenched positions on all sides.” I’m not entrenched in my views, I can

Comment on Reasons to Vote British National Party by David.

“Entrenched positions on all sides.”

I’m not entrenched in my views, I can certainly be swayed by reasoned argument, I don’t see me ever voting BNP, but that would be like asking a BNP voter to vote for Stalin! My opinions are movable, I have moved further right on immigration for example, just not as far as you want me to.

When I first posted the BNP policies I liked the concept of National Service for young people, still do, but not for everyone like the BNP policy and not tied to your right to vote and not involving fire arms ownership either.

I’ve been trying to get BNP supporters to debate with me about National Service and I get ignored pretty much. I’d like to understand how far National Service would go under a BNP government, how disabled people (like myself) would be treated (if I can’t do military service do I loose my right to vote?) and then as I think the current BNP National Service policy is ill thought out, come up with a better idea, because like I said I do like the concept.

“Moderator heavily biased, and I mean heavily.”

Yep.

“Mod provides link to VotenotoBNP blog.
Voteno blog is a rant, no opportunity to reply.”

It’s a good resource for those wanting to read another side of the BNP.

“Pic of Voteno(?), is it him(?) – looks far too young to have an informed opinion on politics – how far back does his adult memory go?”

ROFLOL, though I knew that’s not a picture of Vote No To BNP, (it’s come up before) talk about ageism!!! Are you saying young people can’t understand politics as well as a 25+ year old? Have you seen some of the dumb things Terence says for example and he’s a pensioner, by your style of argument old people shouldn’t be allowed an opinion either because some are not informed!

I’m a little gobsmacked you brought age in to this. My 18 year old son posted a few comments under the Reasons to Vote BNP” page and he wiped the floor with those who responded.

“Yet Voteno and moderator HOG the so called debate.”

How can we HOG the debate, unless you are suggesting I’m deleting hundreds of comments or something? The comments are open and since I made this new BNP Commenting Policy on the 1st of January (8 days ago) https://general-election-2010.co.uk/commenting-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-3497 I’ve deleted 41 comments (upgraded WordPress and they now go in a Trash folder, so not actually deleted).

Of those 4 are mine, 2 are from VoteNo ToBNP, 3 from Andrew Phillips (2 of them were posted twice), 26 from Terence, most of these are of the form Vote BNP, blah, blah, blah (no value) and a few double posts. The rest are from various posters who posted the Vote blah, no value. The trashed comments date back as far as November 18th, so not new comments. the last comments deleted are 3 from Terence on the 2nd January, not deleted anything since.

“Both should be muted for a month, then maybe some real debate might take place.”

LOL, you mean all pro BNP comments?

“Why David, do you not include a running total of all first-time visitors right next to the ‘total votes’ number?”

I don’t have that option, it’s not part of the plugin I used to create the polls.

“That way we can get an idea of how many people don’t bother voting on this site.”

I can tell you it’s most people don’t vote. I don’t have a running total of how many people vote per day or anything. I do have basic logs from the plugin, but to pull daily voting numbers from it would mean manually counting votes each day!!!

Most people don’t comment either, this is becoming my most commented site. I have a site that gets 10,000 visitors a day and it doesn’t get this many comments.

“You say 2000 hits a day? That’s an awful lot of people who are not bothering to click any party, not even a ‘none of above’.”

You assume they are all finding the site looking for a general election poll to vote on. If someone searches for BNP Policies in Google this page is number 5 currently: https://general-election-2010.co.uk/bnp-policies-immigration-time-to-say-enough/ they don’t necessarily care about voting in a poll. Even most of those that find their way to this poll page aren’t searching for a poll, they are searching for General election 2010, UK General Election etc…

Also it was 2,000 visitors not hits, hits is a bit misleading, each visitor can generate multiple hits, so when a webmaster says they get 2,000 hits it could man 100 visitors, 500 visitors, depends on the site design. After the general election announcements in the news went out, visitor numbers has increased, too early to say it will hold, but currently around 2,500 visitors a day. General election fever hasn’t hit yet.

“So, do something useful and give us all a better idea of how the votes are going/not going. Please.”

I don’t see how the percentage of people who visit this site vote is a helpful statistic to be honest. I don’t think pollsters like Gallop include things like “we stood outside a polling station and asked 2,500 voters who they voted for, 22% replied”. Everyone knows when it comes to polls most people say they are too busy.

Even if I wanted to include this information it’s not a feature of the plugin used, so it’s not even an option.

“This site was a good site in the beginning David, but you and voteno are hogging it and ruining it.”

You mean it was a good site when I didn’t know enough about the BNP to comment effectively and BNP supporters got to comment without having their sources called into question like Vote No To BNP does?

“I am sure visitors want to read other comments besides your rants against the BNP.”

I’d rephrase that slightly:

I am sure visitors want to read other comments besides BNP comments.

David