According to the Labour Party website the Labour Party have achieved the following in their time in power:
Why Labour?
Britain is safer with Labour. We are taking the tough and necessary measures to combat crime and anti-social behaviour. Our no-nonsense approach is bringing crime down. Since 1997, overall crime – including violent crime – has fallen by almost 40 per cent and you are now less likely to be a victim of crime than at any time in the last 25 years. We have a stronger police service, with police numbers at a historic high – over 14,000 more police officers than in 1997, alongside nearly 16,000 Police Community Support Officers.
Labour’s beliefs are consistent – tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime. But the nature of communities is changing, and this means the nature of crime and the causes of crime are changing too. Only Labour has the policies to address these new challenges building on what we have achieved over the past decade and tackling them head on. We are giving police and communities new powers to tackle anti-social behaviour; investing in neighbourhood policing; taking measures to combat terrorism; and delivering a fairer and better-balanced criminal justice system – appropriately punishing criminals and offering support to their victims.
Key Achievements
* Since 1997 overall crime is down 39 per cent (over 6 million fewer crimes); domestic burglary is down 55 per cent; vehicle-related crime is down 57 per cent; violent crime is down 39 per cent.
* Police numbers up by more than 14,000 since 1997, alongside nearly 16,000 Community Support Officers. Neighbourhood policing is now rolled out nationally – with more than 3,600 Neighbourhood Policing Teams working to improve public satisfaction and confidence by working with local people.
* The risk of becoming a victim of crime is at historically low levels, down from its peak in 1995.
* During the past decade nearly 25,000 more prison places have been provided; and more offenders are being brought to justice – 70 per cent more violent and dangerous criminals are now locked up and for longer.
* Last year over 40,000 offenders entered education, training or employment; we have almost trebled spending on offender learning since 2001; and we have increased investment in drug treatment in prisons by over 1,000 per cent since 1996/7.
New Labour, your Britain
* Tackling violent crime, including: a targeted campaign against knife crime and tougher sentences for those caught with a knife; new controls on deactivated firearms; portable weapon scanners for the police; targeted action to tackle gang crime; and education to turn young people away from crime.
* Time saving technology and cuts in police red tape so that police can spend more time on the street; a new policing pledge and online crime maps to give local people more information and a bigger say in how their neighbourhood is policed.
* Reforming the justice system so that it works for the public; punishes the guilty; offers a realistic prospect of rehabilitation for the contrite; and places the interests of victims at its heart.
* Continuing to introduce tough and effective sentences for the guilty alongside action to tackle re-offending, focussing on education and work.
* We are fully committed to providing a net further 15,000 prison places by 2014 through the largest ever prison-building programme (7,000 of which will be provided by 2010).
* Tougher and more visible Community Payback schemes so that local communities can see that crime is being tackled in their local area, and justice is being done.
* A new Victims’ Champion to give victims and witnesses a stronger voice in the justice system, protecting their interests and ensuring fair treatment.
* More steps to support people who do the right thing, including a £5m Community Crime Fighters programme to train 3,600 members of the public who are already active in their communities and want to do more to make them safer.
Labour Party Crime and Justice Policy :http://www.labour.org.uk/crime-justice-policy
I would be interested to hear both positive and negative views on Labour’s Crime and Justice policies in the comments below?
Well where to start on this one! In my opinion Labour has failed miserably on curbing anti-social behavior, you only have to walk down a major towns streets on a weekend to see one of the problems, binge drinking!
The perception given by the media is young people are almost out of control and to some degree I’m sure they are. There will be some awful areas in the UK where you take your life in your hands to go out at night on a weekend, but I doubt it’s as bad as the media makes out country wide (there are trouble hot spots).
From what I see when I walk at night (I had an operation 6 months ago on my back and walk for an hour every day and tend to go at night, less pain) in the seaside town of Skegness, there’s a lot of stupid drunken behavior, but it’s not running battles with the police or anything, mainly stupid drunk young people being anti social.
As a teenager (17 to 20 years old, I’m 39 now) I’d go out for a drink with my mates on a weekend, I didn’t have much money (was a student) so I couldn’t drink a lot (beer was more expensive then!!). I did however get into quite a lot of fights, mainly because the friend I went out with the most liked to fight and if I was with someone I’d back them up (a strange sort of loyalty!).
This was under a Conservative government, we never got arrested or even questioned despite having fights inside nightclubs etc… I recall one fight where I went a bit to far and apparently broke various bones on this guys face/body (police never even questioned me and the person knew who I was)!
As a side note the people we fought with was as up for a fight on an evening out as we were, so this wasn’t a case of piling on some poor sod in mass and beating the shit out of them, it was generally one on one fighting that rarely went too far.
We once put or fists through a pub sign, I broke one side, he broke the other. By the next weekend the police had our names and gave us a choice, pay the money to have the sign replaced (think it was £180 each) or be arrested. We paid for the sign to be replaced and never did anything that stupid again! Interesting that for criminal damage we were questioned, but for fighting nothing at all!!
That was under the Conservatives. I no longer drink alcohol (never really liked it) and prefer to go for a walk to the park/beach with my wife and kids than go to a pub (not the person I was as a teenager).
So I don’t think much has changed in terms of how the police/government deal with ant-social behaviour, though it’s probably worse than it was when I was young (but not that much worse, just more publicised).
I think the problem is with how the police deal with anti-social behaviour. If you are out for a night of drunken stupidity and the worse that’s going to happen to you is sent home early with a slap on the wrist (caution) why would anyone stop doing what they enjoy if there’s no penalty?
We need financial penalties for anti-social behaviour, catch someone urinating in the street give them a fixed fine, if I had to pay £50 for spending a penny I’d think twice before doing it again.
We should work on the principal if you damage something, you replace it. We don’t want to lock people away for doing stupid things, prison should be for dangerous people, not idiots!
Parents should be financially responsible for what their children damage. If a parent can’t control their kids, those kids should be put in a home until either the kids change or the parents change.
David
The Government has Failed Miserably on Curbing Anti-Social Behavior
Who else thinks prisons should be almost exclusivly for dangerous people?
David
Totally correct David.
We need to stop treating the victims as criminals, and the criminals as “victims”.
Political correctness gone completly to the dogs.
I’m happy to see you agree with one thing I’ve said on this site. Now to convince you of the remaining 999 points we disgree on :)
David
Im with ya on that Dave n britishbred ;D
Labour Policies : Crime and Anti-Social Behaviour
I cant find a policy relating to the hate and violence preached in the mosques of this country?
Someone please reply if I am wrong.
Our wonderful govt p*****g yet more of our money away by offering “foreign” criminals including rapists & muggers, up to 5000 pounds to go home as they musnt infringe their “human rights!!! See the mail on line! Apparently the useless Brown & his crew are so desperate to have some “positive” figures to declare to the public, by showing figures that appear to mean they have deported criminals!!
What was their great slogan again David?
Tough on Crime…..!!
They couldn’t run a hot dog stand!!
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Actually on this we 100% agree, they should be deported no questions asked, no money/incentive or whatever words they want to use to flanel it up with.
Criminal immigrants WE DO NOT NEED
vote no to bnp has to agree other wise he will go rite down the pan/he agrees so much he wants to vote for more of it!! what a laugh the wife and i just die laughing at is silly comments every one can see rite through him> he blows with the wind to befriend you tries to look reasonable then tries to foiste’r himself on you as a reasonable person ,all the while we see his real agenda he is a left wing stooge a troll for the uaf .. vote BNP can you see a reason not to.What do we owe the upper class bulling ton boys the war mongers the thieves the liers we owe them nothing .VOTE BNP to end this tyrrany
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Not at all Terence becuase the Tory Soverienty Bill gives me everything I need that the BNP policiy doesn’t offer AT ALL.
So I will be sticking with my Tory vote.
no point in talking policies with you then, what a cowardly cop out!! VOTE BNP for Country children future!!
1st your ask what policies I like then you say it’s a cop out when I tell you a specific policy idea I like?
And you wonder why people can’t take you seriously Terence …… what a BLEATING (yes I said i again, because it’s a free country and the words belong to us all) BNP DRONE …. yes I said DRONE
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The words in the English language are ours to use so why not use them instead of plagiarizing mine, i dont mins if you are white and indigenousness to the land what gives you the selfritious pomposity to say you have no problem with the whites how long have you been here where do you originate from< i find that comment very offensive!
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i would like you to give me a brake down of what encourages you to vote Tory > you never no you might just persuade me! Doubt it though i have had enough of them do not believe a word they say Sorry!! nice to hear why you still trust them though but i need more than the sovereignty bill thats says nothing to me as a none political animal just a voter who has had enough of the lib/lab.con as my friends and family are at the sharp end not in the 68.4%btax bracket like your lucky selves.we are in the no homes no jobs bracket,, Vote BNP
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That took me a minute to figure out what the p*****d word was :-)
I’d not seen this before reading your comment.
From the article at:http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/147699/Foreign-criminals-handed-%A35,000-taxpayer-funded-gift/
Do I agree with the concept of rewarding criminals, absolutely NOT!
Do I agree with saving tax payers money, YES.
Does this save us money?
It would appear so, if a prisoner is removed on average 25 or more days early from prison it should save money:
The average prisoner who took up this offer benefited by ~£2,500 each.
It costs us £100 per day to house a criminal, therefore if we can remove a criminal at least 25 days earlier than waiting for their release date we’ve saved money.
The question then is how much is this saving us per prisoner, is it worth the associated negativity of rewarding criminals financially?
I don’t like this, but if it saves a lot of money….
That being said why can’t we just remove foreign prisoners quicker without having to reward them financially? What’s stopping us right now and can those hurdles be removed?
I think most people reading this will agree deporting foreign criminals is a good idea and should certainly be encouraged. The problem is paying them to leave!
Do we take the high moral ground and say NO WAY to rewarding criminals or think longer term, the saved money could go to pensioners, soldiers, better services?
At least this policy appears to save the country money unlike the voluntary repatriation scheme the BNP have as policy to remove law abiding immigrants from Britain, that BNP policy will not only remove hard working immigrants, but cost tax payers billions in bribes, far more expensive and damaging than Labours policy.
Labour pays criminals £2,500 to leave.
BNP pays legal immigrants over £10,000 to leave.
At least Labour are removing criminals. I hate the idea of rewarding criminals, but I’m torn between my morals and saving money for better services for the law abiding British people!!!
I have moral objections to Labour’s policy, but have no issue with saying no the BNP’s planned policy of removing legal immigrants.
Very interesting Labour policy to debate though, I’m getting pulled both ways.
David
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Sorry David but we would save far more money by simply removing them to serve a sentence in there own country of origin and putting them on a banned list for EVER returning this would save far much more money in the long run.
IF we can legally remove them just as fast without financial incentives of course we should.
If we can legally remove them, why don’t we?
It suggests we can’t and I find it difficult to believe any government would choose to pay foreign criminals to leave early if there was a free (or cheaper/better) way of removing them.
If this is a case of following this policy because it saves money, I’d like to understand what hurdles are stopping us removing foreign criminals just as early with out financial incentives?
I’d be interested to learn more about this, too many ifs and buts right now to make an informed decision.
David
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It comes under the Human Rights Act for some strange reason that we can’t deport an immigrant that has commited a crime, in my opinion our laws should be changed to allow the deportation of foreign criminals.
It is one of the things I do get annoyed with with the current soft attitide of the Government, on things like this it’s too softly softly when it should be sorry you broke the law tough bye bye.
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Completely agree, the Human Rights Act is a scourge from the EU Convention on Human Rights / Charter of Fundamental Rights giving further recourse to criminals who fail legally in the UK.
I believe the Conservatives are proposing a Sovereignty Bill and full opt-out (only with full agreement of all other EU members) which is supposed to allow UK law to take precedence. Interesting to see if they did and what sanctions the UK would receive for their actions!
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OK, since currently we can’t remove them legally early, what about financial incentives IF it saves the tax payer money?
If it’s £100 a day and we can get a foreign criminal to leave a year early and pay them the full £5,000 we save a lot of money.
Saved money: 365×100-5,000 = £31,500
Considering the moral and ethical implications of giving foreign criminals money to leave the British prison system early it has to be a significant saving (several times what it costs) and at the same time not let criminals out too early (still need to be punished).
You know thinking about it, shouldn’t early release be enough incentive for them to leave?
If I had a 10 year prison term and I was supposed to serve 3 years (assuming good behaviour) and after the 3 years I’d be legally deported and I was offered early release at 2 1/2 years if I agreed to leave the country voluntarily, it’s a no brainer!
Our criminal justice system is in such a mess, it really needs some commonsense brought into it.
David
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BTW This is the sort of discussion I wanted from this site when I decided to create it, I want to learn more about politics not waste my time endlessly discussing the BNP.
I’m flip flopping back and forth on this issue.
Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but :-)
David
I can see the logic in offering incentives to leave, but what I would prefer to see is an imposed deportation order with maybe a small resettlement figure rather than up to £5k as it currently is that to me give more of an incetive to commit crime to be rewarded for it, I would if anything prefer enough to cover a months rent when they get back home etc.
And Sarah is correct on the S.Bill which is one of the reasons I will be voting Tory this time, because hopefully we can then take action we need to take without having the full constraints of the Human Rights Act, i don’t disagree with the HRA completly I think it does offer great protection for people, but in cases of criminals I believe it offers to much protection.
They didn’t consider the rights of people when they commited the crime so why should we have to take account of all their rights when it comes to sentencing and dispensing justice.
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And as for the level of this debate I agree 100% with you David, but it’s just unfortunate that the majority of the BNP supporters (not all) are not prepared to enter debate they have one view and one view only.
And no matter how solid an argument you put forward you will never get anywhere as they have a fixed course they they can’t deviate from.
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another bnp policy the lib/lab/con bring them in the BNP help them to go home it would haver cost us nothing if the lib/lab/con had not brought them in in the thousands weekly.the money to keep them here and the extra money needed to send them home could have kept soldiers at home instead of fighting illegal wars. Cherie Blaire I read some where made £8 million out of legal aid fighting failed asylum seekers cases faced with deportation.he brought them in she made millions out of it! BNP the party 4 me
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the thing is David discussing policies should have been done years ago,why has it become so important to discuss BNP policies why not discuss the lib lab .com policies I am up for that! you see if some one makes a policy that has not been tried with a bit of knowledge it is easy to make it look bad ! When i worked In a car factory after all the policies and engineering it was found the best way to iron out problems was to run the car first time down the line, then when in practice you would find the faults if any! So you see the BNP have to be put in power given a chance like the others to prove them selves, the others have had thee day and proven to be worse than useless they could not run a party in a brewery if its no good then we are really screwed as the BNP are our last option the only option . so give them the chance VOTE BNP for you children
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“the thing is David discussing policies should have been done years ago,why has it become so important to discuss BNP policies why not discuss the lib lab .com policies I am up for that!”
I’m beginning to think you are a UAF troll now Terence, (you damage the BNP cause, so must be UAF :-)) you don’t want to discuss BNP policies, why not?
Untested BNP policies aren’t to be discussed, but tried and test policies from the main parties should be discussed.
The problem with people like you Terence is you don’t have an open mind to make an informed decision on anything. Until you prove otherwise to be able to think for yourself I’ll see you as a mindless BNP drone.
BNP Education Policy:
“The reintroduction of competitive sports and daily Christian assemblies”
I have no problem with competitive sports and no problem with religion: I’m an atheist who believes everyone has a right to peacefully follow any belief they choose.
Last time I checked kids still play football, rugby, cricket… in school and I understand despite never being in any of the national teams :-) they are competitive sports?
So what does this BNP policy achieve, we already have competitive sports in school?
“Daily Christian assemblies”, what does this mean Terence, if you are a big BNP supporter who has read and understands all BNP policies how far will this policy go? Is it back to how it used to be when I was at school (20+ years ago)?
I came from a family though not overly religious, did believe in a Christian God. I went to normal schools where I was forced to sit through Christian assemblies despite at an early age (before my teens) realising I did not believe in a God. I was told I’d have to be a Mormon to not participate in the Christian assemblies!
It was wrong then to force children to be part of religious Christian assembly in school and it is still wrong now.
We do not all believe in the same thing, I understand over half our population are no longer religious and those that are have a mixture of religious beliefs, why should one religious faith (Christianity) be forced on all children?
The BNP complain that Muslims will take over Britain and force the Qur’an on us, so in response the BNP want Christians to take over and force Christianity on us!!! How is that different/better for those who have no religious belief or believe in a different religion?
I have no problem with a parent deciding their child should be Christian/Muslim (whatever), but I have a BIG problem with the government forcing a particular religion on it’s people!
Religion and politics should not mix.
Do NOT vote BNP if you agree with freedom to follow your own religious beliefs.
BTW one of my sites: https://king-james-bible.classic-literature.co.uk/ (only 15th in Google for the search “King James Bible”, used to do much better). And yes I’ve read some of the Bible, not all of it, but enough to make informed decisions.
David
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I would still be voting like the sheeple if i did not think for my self.the fact i have had the courage to stand up with the bnp shows i do think ! may be you should look at your self here!
So the BNP policy on sport is O/k Nice one
Christian assembly in school i agree 100% with that we seem to have lost moral and cultural identity knife and rape crime’s lack of care for other people and lack of real values.
To teach educate not force Christianity on a Christian country is a good thing !! If men do not fear god bad things start to happen as you can see around you,Maybe a few months in a n Islamic school may help you to understand? So yes 100% for religious school Assemblies
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Terence how can you fear something that their is ZERO prove that it actually exists?
And if you believe so much then you wouldn’t still contend that people are different, because acording to your Christian Bible Adam and Eve where the first people on earth therefore by inferance we all decend from Adam and Eve which effectively means we are all from the same family.
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can we begin afresh then lets start on disusing the Tory and labor policy on crime and invasion!! the Post office,mines docks and jobs for British workers and bringing our troops home!
Absolutely Terence, if you want to discus any parties policies in a reasoned way I’ll probably be involved, (some policies don’t interest me, but many do) that’s why I’ve posted (or nearly posted) all the policies from: Labour, Conservatives, Liberal Democrats (need to redo the Lib Dems policy pages), UKIP, Greens (not added all the Greens yet) and yes the BNP. So all policies from Labour, Conservatives, UKIP and the BNP are on this site with comments open for discussion, it’s up to visitors like you (and myself) to use them.
The best place to have those discussions is under the relevant parties Policy discussion pages (easy to find using the search box on the top right of every page or browse them all via the links on the left menu under “Categories” section).
If a comment about a specific parties policy is posted here (under this polls comments) I try to move it to the relevant policy page so new visitors can find it easier (already moved over 600 comments!).
I’ve made comments on https://general-election-2010.co.uk/labour-policies-crime-and-anti-social-behaviour/ page (negative comments as well).
I recently created a proper forum at https://general-election-2010.co.uk/politics/ where you have to register to post (only a dozen registered users so far). In the forum registered visitors can create their own topics, so if you want to discuss “Jobs for British workers” you can start your own topic.
I started the topic . I’m torn between fighting what could be an unwinnable war that’s costing our soldiers their lives and pulling out now and giving Afghanistan back to the Taliban and having our troops lives wasted for nothing!!!
The problem right now with the comments Terence is they are mostly of the type:
BNP are great, no the BNP are awful.
If you want to discuss policy you have to stick to discussing policy and not turn a discussion only into being about voting for the BNP. There are BNP ideas I like, there are Conservative ideas I like, I don’t have to vote for them to like SOME of their ideas.
David
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that sounds reasonable if your honest
Merry Christmas to all.
If handled properly foreign criminals could be encouraged to return home under existing rules by firstly awarding a significant sentence for the offence, to be served in a REAL prison (cat A) offering NO early release unless repatriation is agreed. Secondly starting deportation proceedings at the start of the sentence instead of at the end, that way if the criminal launches appeals they do not extend the stay or be released to re offend. Other proposed incentives could be used in parallel to this.
Vote BNP
Save Britain
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Wow “vntbnp”, one of the few things we agree on!! If you would change your pseudonym to a less provocative one I am sure there would be more!!!
I can’t as I use the same one on several sites so people know who I am.
i have asked vote no for his name he refuses to give it,the person has nothing to debate but hates the BNP that is is one and only reason for being on here he does not want the indigenous people in power as he may he thinks loose his favored position. ASK him to debate tory policies !! or liebour ones!all he want to do is put people off voting BNP The trouble is We dont have the choice all we haver left is the BNP the others are History or soon will be!! VOTE BNP i keep adding vote bnp to counteract the attempted influence of the title vote no to bnp he chose that with a bit of sly though shoes his character is not fair not nice as he starts off with bias agenda // typical of the UAF and the loony left BNP4 me
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BNP TROLL Righty Loony ….. sounds rather good that way round Terence
I am happy with that shows you are unable to think for your self hence the brainwashed attacks on the only opposition the BNP !(Terence the rite wing troll !! nice one) gives me a kind of status vote BNP
i do not no you I trust and believe no one who has a political agenda but remains anonymous . you are untrustworthy!!like BLair/Brown?cameron false faced two faced! quisling>you have my name i will live with the consequences I say it a it is!!(Terence the rite wing troll) I am getting used to that the kids like it to Vote BNP
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if you believe the labour party you will believe any think several times now they have changed home secretary with the saying we will clamp down on asylum and illegal invasion they have been caught out lieing so we cannot trust anything they say How can these people attack the BNP yet trust the most vile tyrants nefarious and pernicious gov in history.they have done nothing but devalue our money wreck the economy and pockets millions ! Expenses cash for honors cash for promoting!Money and power is there god are you so blind you cannot see it! or are you one of the lucky few who are benefiting by it!! VOTE BNP the only true opposition hence the hatred for them Bring our troops home now
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i remember when you could be deported back to ireland,that is both parts; for being drunk and disordely.when the fine was only 10 shillings.