Is it just me or do others find it not only unpatriotic, but also unhelpful to refer to British society as broken, especially coming from a bloody Tory?
Britain is not broken.
Society is not broken.
And while we are at it, Britain is not bankrupt.
David Cameron is arguing Britain is not as nice as it used to be and only the Conservatives can make Britain Great again by embracing what he calls the Big Society.
I accept Britain has serious problems with anti-social behaviour etc…, but lets not forget where the majority of today’s problems in Britain started, it started with Margaret Thatcher who believed there was no British society!!!
Yes, a Tory PM actually said there is no British society, what sort of message does that send to the young of a country, what does that do to communities?
We watched a TV program the other week (might have been the One Show) and it looked at children from different generations. In the past (60s kids) had said their role models where their Mum, Dad, The Queen and even a Prime Minister. The same question to kids today and their role models were celebrities and pop stars (forget which ones) none said Mum or Dad!
We had 18 years of Tory selfishness, where we were taught to step over the down trodden, turn a blind eye to the homeless and pretty much do anything YOU can to get on in life and sod your neighbours!
My wife was out with the kids a couple of years back and an old man fell in the road, she immediately ran to assist him as did another woman (most people walked on by). A car with a man at the wheel and his children in the back stopped in front of the old man (had cut his head in the fall) and honked his horn to hurry my wife and the other woman helping the old man stand up!!!!
Labour’s been in power for 13 years and as a person who has stopped to check on drunks in the street** to make sure they aren’t dead/ill I’m very disappointed Labour haven’t tried to reverse the Tory trend (it’s certainly got worse).
** walking home with my wife and young children, a man was lay on the grass not looking too well, I sent my wife and children ahead (so they were safe) and went back to check on the man, he was drunk, but it could have been a case of an ill man (heart attack for example) and most people today would walk on by and not check.
There are serious problems with Britain today, but it is not broken Britain selfish Britain. When I think of a broken society I think of places like Zimbabwe with a national debt over 300% of their GDP (that’s really bad, worst country in the world for debt) and a leader, Mugabe who shouldn’t be in power! Or I think of countries where the police, government, pretty much everything is completely corrupt. That’s what a broken society is, not what’s wrong with Britain where areas of society are not working particularly well.
It’s the people in authority who set the examples to society and unfortunately we had 18 years of selfish Tory MPs setting the example that society does not exist and do whatever it takes to get on in life.
Unfortunately we’ve now had 13 years of Labour MPs too afraid to say how it is and do something about it for fear of loosing the selfish Tory vote, instead we have draconian measures to protect children from potential child molesters that means if you want to work with children you are treated like a pervert!
I don’t know what the solution is, Just know it’s not the Tories and it’s not more of the same.
My two pence worth (unless the Lib Dems get in and that will be 3 cents worth)
Labour
Continue to try and spend our way out of trouble by trying to stimulate the economy. Risks if we over spend and other countries feel we can not repay our debts at this point we are in big trouble. Greece is an example with the risk with Portugal, Ireland and Spain to follow. To bigger a risk. With Labour there is too much badly spent money. Spend yes but don’t waste it on committees and suchlike.
Lib Dems
Scare me the most. First live debate both Con and Lab went easy on him due to the risk of a hung parliament and possible future partnerships. As immigration seems one of the biggest concerns today his amnesty for 600,000 illegal immigrants goes against the majority of what the population is thinking on top of that he will allow them to bring one additional family member making it 1.2 million of which 600,000 were illegal in the first place.
To become a fully fledged member of Europe would mean our taxes would now be propping up Greece (look how annoyed the Germans are now). Not forgetting his position on Nuclear weapon. They are a deterrent. If he allows Iraq to develop Nuclear technology what next..
Conservative
Just not sure I believe all he says
But honestly to my mind not as scary as the rest and the other parties crazy ideas
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Labour and the Lib Dems share an ideology that the state should control and run everything. At the moment approx 48% of the countries economy is dependant on the state. That is clearly unsustainable, because the state is requiring huge loans to keep up. The only other way would be huge tax hikes, which would reduce the amount of money to spend and reduce the private sector further, increasing the burden on the state again.
We have to reduce the size of the state and do what we can to increase the private sector. The party best equipped to do this is the Tories. All other considerations should be put aside until the national debt is under control.
I also support the Tories plans to “repair” society. It may not be completely broken, but increasingly people are entering into a blame culture, not taking responsibility for themselves. People survive on benefits and complain they can’t get a job because of their parents, or school or the government. It is that idea that needs to change. Their may not always be jobs but very few people are entirely unemployable.
Somebody complained that the Tories are labelling all people out of work with the same brush by saying they are getting tough on people unwilling to work. That simply isn’t true. They are saying they will cut benefits for people who turn paid work down. If you are not offered a job you wil still recieve the benefits. The only other benefit they are proposing is for people on high incomes, which I don’t think can be considered making the middle class richer as somebody else on here mentioned.
The Tories are always against it because their are such a huge number of people who would vote Labour even if Hitler was in charge, but they are the party most likely to save us from the financial mess an overly large state as put us in.
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I’m still undecided on who to vote for, but it seems to me the major problem we have for the next 10 years will be economic, so i think i will discount which Prime Minister we will get and vote for the party who i think will provide the best Chancellor. I don’t think i could possibly vote for Osborne, he just seems so lightwieght, a career politician who has never had a proper job in his life, that leaves 2, i know i’m going to be hammered by tax, i would like to know how, where and when, the person who i think tells me the most detail will get my vote.
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Post Script to my last comment, by detail i don’t mean Change, Tough choices and Big society, to me these mean absolutley nothing and if i hear them again i will scream and vote Monster Raving Looney Party, at least then i will get incompetence instead of corruption.
The “Big Question,” which the Conservatives have to answer, and which David Cameron does not explain, is how he is going to persuade the rest of Britain, particularly those who put their faith in money, to work for nothing, in order to deliver his “Big Society?”
Because secular society put its faith in money, we are in a credit crunch in which nobody can see where the money is going to come from, but if religious groups feel that, in the ”Big Society,” their members are being sidelined, where is all the goodwill going to come from?
Gordon Brown says that New Labour is going to be, “guided by a sense of fairness,” but, in all fairness, how long can he continue to rely on the goodwill and support of those who put their faith in God, while he denies their right to openly profess that faith, or teach it to their children?
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Cameron’s “Big Society” is probably intended to be similar to Thatcher’s. People often forget that, prior to the spring of 1982, she was one of the Most unpopular prime ministers Britain has had. She made her name, or so-called reputation, because of a colonial aberration for a few weeks in April-June 1982 – the Falklands War. Her governments NEVER received the support of more than 35% of the electorate, and she virtually declared war on a section of her own society. That is, in a large measure, what has led to a great many of today’s social problems. Prior to Thatcher, Tory governments had always ruled with a measure of consensus – after Thatcher the Tories tried very hard to destroy all of our hard-won public services which give a measure of support to the socially and economically disadvantaged. The Tories have not changed their spots and will continue to do so. Many of them, given half a chance, would return Britain to the Victorian era (some Tories often publicly speak of Victorian values – the reality is that Victorian Britain was a country of abject poverty for the vast majority).
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