According to the British National Party website the British National Party will try to achieve the following if they gain power at the general election: Updated October 2016 Mass Immigration is the greatest threat to our precious and unique British identity. The pressure on housing and on public services such as schools, hospitals, transport networks, […]
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Well you know what Disraeli said about statistics… Lies… Damn Lies.
That is surely true for any statistics on the UK population… to the governments own admission… they have lost track with all the illegals coming over in the back of lorries and in small boats…
& we all know why they travel over many many countries where they could get asylum, but choose to come all the way here to the UK for our Social Services & Housing & Jobs…. they are queing up to get here in Calais and other ports… hoping for a free ride to scrounge on our streets and at our Social Security Offices…
No… there are no records, just the UK in deeper debt than any other 1st world country… even now trailing behind Ireland and Denmark and Iceland.
Who could aregue that we need more immigration when we have such high Unemployment… and add to that all those on Job Seekers Allowences.
Actually I was looking at statistics last night for the area of Bolton… see this document which shows a much lowerer % of Ethnic minority employed than the rest of people of Bolton in 2004 & see that in comparison with an even higher % Employed in England as a whole -see Page 23 (or pg 21 of actual doc).
See that there must be many more ethnic claiments than others in Bolton or in England. Source NRU Floor Targets Interactive.
Just put the word Ethnic in the search and see towards the end of the document that they are earmarked for extra funding to help them as compared to other Bolton People.
It is a bloody disgrace that English people are not getting any special funding or special help in their own country!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
VOTE BNP!
By the way ‘VoteNo ToBNP’… How comes you are getting to read & comment on my posts before they have been added?
Also why ‘VoteNo ToBNP’ when you can’t do that in the Poll? Bit of a silly name!
VOTE BNP!
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Sorry I was not replying correctly and just adding new threads… although each was about a different issue.
Thanks for clarifying what happened.
“That is surely true for any statistics on the UK population… to the governments own admission… they have lost track with all the illegals coming over in the back of lorries and in small boats…”
This is something we can actually agree 100% on, the people that do enter the country this way should be found and DEPORTED with no questions asked, no opportunity of Asylam etc, if they can’t enter leagally then they have no right to be here.
But again we don;t need the BNP to achieve this in my opinion.
“Just put the word Ethnic in the search and see towards the end of the document that they are earmarked for extra funding to help them as compared to other Bolton People.”
Again you need to get this into perspective, they can ONLY access any extra funding to help if they:
A. Have a British passport
B. Have legal leave to remain
It’s a misnomer that Immigrants can just walk in and get benefits, I have worked for the Jobcentre Plus and I can tell you 100% that an Immigrant CAN’T just walk in and get benefits, there are some serious rules blocking it.
I won’t go into them they will take too long to do. But just to say it isn’t possible for them to just get benefits.
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Really? They (the immigrants) can’t just walk in and claim benefits?
Are you sure?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/
How do they taste? Those words you’re now eating..
Yes that’s called ILLEGAL TRAFFICNG, that’s a group of criminals who have false passports, NI Numbers etc.
That’s CRMINAL offenses, not just someone walking in and making a claim.
It’s called CRIME GANGS not individuals. there is a massive difference.
But if you want to talk benefit fraud I know from when I worked for Jobcentre Plus that something in the region of £2billion of benefit fraud was commited by White-British people each year.
So the British people are far from honest when it comes to claiming money from the state. I have seen many 100’s of cases of white people claiming when they shouldn’t.
one for instance a mother of 2 claimed benefits under 2 serperate names from 2 Jobcentres using false NI Numbers.
Not only that she also claimed to be a single mother, yet her HUSBAND yes husband had a job that paid him something in the order of £30,000 per year yet she still claimed under 2 false names.
so the British people are NOT innocent of Benefit fraud.
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I was actually answering your statement that Immigrants can’t claim benefits when they obviously can.
Yes, British people do falsely claim benefits and I don’t like them either, how are they getting away with it, why aren’t there more thorough checks?
The system is opened and flawed which is why we need to get rid of it and implement a proper “Workfare” policy such as the UKIP and BNP are proposing.
Taxpayers shouldn’t be paying for single parents to rampantly breed without having the means to support their offspring either.
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““Workfare” policy such as the UKIP and BNP are proposing”
Well this is nothing new, look at the current programme Flexible New Deal,
once you have been signing for six months you then start to see a New Deal Advisor for a further six months, if you are still unemployed you are sent to a training provider for 12 months, during this time you have to carry out Work Experience.
So a programme like it already exists.
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So you see we don’t need the BNP or UKIP for this we already have it, the Tories have a tighter policy still so again we don’t need UKIP or the BNP.
Personally I would have a far far harder system if I were in charge, it would go something like this:
Whilst you were working you would have to buy your own out of work insurance.
If you lost your job you would be entitled to state benefit for NO MORE than six months, after that your insurance company would have to pay you untill either the policy ran out or you had a job.
That’s GETTING tough.
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I would go even further and stop child benefit being paid to anyone and make it absolutely clear that the government will not support you if you choose to have babies you cannot afford.
Children aren’t a natural right or a meal-ticket, they should be deemed as a privilege. If you can’t support one then you shouldn’t have one until you can.
I have 3 children, I don’t expect anyone else to provide for mine, I don’t claim anything for mine.
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Just following on from this statement about having been unemployed for 6 months then training then this that and the other…
As the Somali family who are living in their nice mansion as well as a separate 2 bed flat at tax-payers expense with a tribe of kids and being unemployed.
How is it that they have managed to breed 8 children and be unemployed and have 2 properties being paid for in housing benefit? Even if he has worked in the past.
If he got a job now would he be obliged to pay his own rent? If he’s never worked, how would he have managed to claim benefits for all this time?
I’m not attacking, I’m just asking because you said that you worked in a Job Centre so I am genuinely curious and interested to know if there are loopholes that can be exploited..
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“If he got a job now would he be obliged to pay his own rent? If he’s never worked, how would he have managed to claim benefits for all this time?”
He most certainly would be liable to pay the full rent, however he would also be entitled to tax credit based on a. his salary and b. number of kids etc, so I would guess the family would get Tax Credits as well due to having so many kids.
They would then be entitled to claim Housing Benefit (at reduced rates) depending on the level of Tax credit awarded.
But in this families case persoanlay as they are immigrants and NOT contributing to the UK Economy and clearly taking from it in more than one claim I would personally be doing everything possible to get back as much of the money as possible, the revoke the British Passports (if they have them) then deport them.
What they have done is illegal and they should be punished to the maximum of the law, I don’t agree that she should escape prison just because of the kids, I would personally be taking a VERY hard line against them, no nice rubbish they ripped off the state they derserv to pay the penalty for that.
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As for him not having ever worked, I don’t know all the details of the individual case to comment on that one.
But frankly I don’t care about the facts of the case anyway, they have claimed benefits they are not entitled too and been caught doing so, so end of story anyway.
Get the money back by any means possible and ban them from claiming any benefit in future, when thay have paid as much as possible back bye bye they leave.
That’s my opinion.
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I didn’t realise that they had broken the law… I thought it was the system that allowed this and allocated the mansion and the flat to them in view of their large family.
That said, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they had sub-let the flat to top up their benefits.
This whole scenario does make you foam at the mouth somewhat!
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“It’s a misnomer that Immigrants can just walk in and get benefits, I have worked for the Jobcentre Plus and I can tell you 100% that an Immigrant CAN’T just walk in and get benefits, there are some serious rules blocking it.”
They did though, they did it because they were cleverer than you and that the people who should have been making the checks weren’t bothering to do it properly.
Regardless of whether it’s organised criminal activity or not, they did just walk in and claim benefits because the system is rubbish and they know how to work it.
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Sarah
Your logic is ridiculous. I could break into someones home and steal all their possessions but it would be criminal to do so because there are laws in place preventing people from walking into other people’s homes and stealing their property.
By your logic you are praising the burglars for being smarter than the homeowners and proves nothing.
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Yes Sarah they did,
But White-British people do it day in and day out, 2 billion pounds worth of benefit fraud yearly commited by white-British people.
Don’t see you commenting on that little FACT. Sorry Sarah you can’t just blame one group of people and ignor the other group of people who do exactly the same thing.
It’s almost like saying an Immigrant killed ny cat and screaming all over the press about it, but if some white kid killed your cat you just sit back and say that’s ok he white.
You’re not going to do that are you?
So you have to take into accoun the ammount of money claimed by white-British people as well that they shouldn;t be claiming.
It’s called fairness, and it also proves that it far from just immigrants claiming benefits they are NOT entitled to ……
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Ok, the system is rubbish, it’s open to abuse by both immigrants and white British – we’re agreed on that, yes?
Praising the perpetrators isn’t really the point, it’s the fact that the documents aren’t checked for authenticity that’s the problem.. It’s the fact that benefits are too easy to obtain in the first place that’s the problem.
People can just walk walk into the Job Centre with false documents and start claiming even if they have just arrived?
Asylum Seekers (Immigrants) can just arrive and claim Asylum Support? Yes or no?
You approach my cat at your own peril…I don’t go near my cat if I can help it!
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Yes Sarah I agrees with you already, I was just making the point that anyone can do it, and you had tried to imply that it was only immigrants that do it, and I was correcting you.
people that work for Jobcentre lus are not trained to spot dodgy passports etc, it’s just a fact they can;t pick them out.
I agree more needs to be done to stop as many false claims as possible, I was simply offering a different view to your in terms of you said only Immigrants where doing it, which is wrong to have a debate you have to use all the facts not just the ones that suit you.
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“Asylum Seekers (Immigrants) can just arrive and claim Asylum Support? Yes or no?”
Yes, but Asylum support is NOT Jobcentre money, it;s a different fund and it’s actually a lot lower than people get on JSA.
They have to be a legal Asylum seeker to claim it, and they get to claim it as legally they are NOT allowed to work in the UK.
But you also have to see the difference between an Asylum Seeker and an immigrant.
Asylum Seekers are people who have fled their own country through fear of death etc, immigrants are different.
Immigrants are given working visa’s etc and they can’t actually claim any benefits at all unless of course they are given full British passport status and then have two years National Insurance contributions records the same as anyone else has to have.
So you see there are big differences in what you say.
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My point was actually in reply to the comment you made about Immigrants claiming benefits, nothing else. You made a statement saying that they cannot just arrive and claim – that was in fact, incorrect.
Immigrants can on arrival, either fraudulently (through the crappy system), or by genuine means claim benefits.
Asylum Support is a cash benefit and regardless of whether it is more or less than Income Support or which Government Agency actually pays for it, it’s a benefit.
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“If you are an asylum seeker in the UK you are entitled to claim asylum support (somewhere to live and money for food and clothes) whilst your claim for asylum is being decided. This is important because you are not allowed to work whilst claiming asylum. The Home Office department responsible for asylum support is the Borders and Immigration Agency (BIA).”
OK – is that better?
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Yes Sarah I agree again, but the point you were making was Jobcentre Benefits, which Asylum Seekers are NOT entitled to.
i was showing you the difference, I wasn;t denying that Asylum Seekers are entitled to money and help, but like I said they get it because they are NOT allowed to woek.
You were talking of Jobcentre Benefits fraud. if you want to move it to Asylum Seekers make the distinction more obvious.
You can;t just skip from one to another that are not exactly directly related to each other, Immigrants and Asylum Seekers are two very different things and are dealt with in two very different ways.
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This is to AGAIN refute the absolute rubbish being spouted by the rabid UAF supporter “voteno tobnp”.
Once again you have changed your numbers on immigrants, a few posts ago it was 7%, miraculously it has risen to 8.7% in 2001, and these are govt figures which we all know are fiddled so are probably much higher, proven, when one looks around with OPEN eyes! you have also admitted you have no idea how many illegals are here and fail to admit that your precious “nulabour” had a covert policy to flood even MORE IN!
I spotted that you were obviously a civil servant working for the DHSS hence the reason for no unemployment record, if you had a real job instead of being one of the cosseted politicised parasites of “nulabour”, you would realise that the REAL workplace is tough and as a result of the policies of successive govts many people lose jobs as a result of downsizing or moving of jobs abroad etc!
You claim to “work your arse off”, I find this difficult to believe if you are a civil servant! My experience of “civil servants” is that in the main they spend much of the time covering their arse & talking out of it, rather than working it!!!
Its idiots like you that are complicit in the destruction of our , the British peoples, land! If you are a white British person, then you are a traitor, but possibly you are a British passport holding ethnic, which would explain a lot!!
Any THINKING, REAL British person cannot fail to be aware of our dire situation!!! The ONLY party that will address this are the BNP!!!
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“This is to AGAIN refute the absolute rubbish being spouted by the rabid UAF supporter “voteno tobnp”.”
Fact …. I don not now, NEVER have NEVER will support the UAF, I don’t believe in their tactics, frankly I think they have a seriously NEGATIVE effect on the message they are trying to deliver.
“I spotted that you were obviously a civil servant working for the DHSS hence the reason for no unemployment record, if you had a real job instead of being one of the cosseted politicised parasites of “nulabour”, you would realise that the REAL workplace is tough and as a result of the policies of successive govts many people lose jobs as a result of downsizing or moving of jobs abroad etc!”
I aslo said that I USED to work for Jobcentre Plus, Infering I NO LONGER do, I now work in the Private Sector have been made redundant twice, but got another job straight away.
So again get ones facts straight. As for Nu-Labour (actually New labour, I Don’t actuall vote Labour as i pointed out already, I am actually a Tory voter.
so before acusing people of being members of the UAF get your facts correct.
The number quoted were from two seperate reports which I believe wehere noted in the posts, as I do like to be open about where i get my FACTS from.
maybe you should also quote some actual facts instead of SCREAMIN UAF Scum at someone that has NOTHING to do with the UAF.
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And now I have some serious questions for you:
(I would appreciate honest answers without insults)
Just because someone disagrees with the BNP how does that suddenly make them UAF or in your words “Rabid UAF Supporter”?
Is it not possible that someone can simply just not agree with the BNP without them being UAF?
Don’t you think it’s a bit paranoid of you to assume that everyone that disagrees with the BNP is UAF?
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You see there is a big difference between me and the Average BNP Supporter (not all but most), they all scream UAF, Leftie, Commie, Scum etc etc.
You won;t find me anywhere on here (or anywhere else) calling you as an individual a Racist or a Nazi just because you support the BNP.
I have respect for your personal choice and I don’t lump you in with the parties roots, I give you the benefit of the doubt.
But your only response to me is that I disagree with the BNP therefore by infrence I am a Rabid UAF Supporter.
This is why I do not take the BNP seriously because the majority of the supporters spout the same old thing without considering that the person they are spouting it at may not actually approve of organisations like the UAF.
So before making the dramatic Rabid UAF Supporter maybe you should have asked me if I did infact support the UAF, which I have clearly said I don’t.
If you can only engage in insult rather than actually debate things then I see no advantage in debating with you, if you want to enter a political debate you need to make sure you can do so without bias or pre-conceptions of what peoples personal opinions may or may not be.
hope you are following what I am trying to get at, I would hope that after reading my posts you would be big enough to offer an appology for making your accusations/assumptions without knowing the facts.
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Well at this point I would like to point a few things out from me perspective, just today K Williams has attacked me by way of this forum (blog) calling me amongst other things Idiot, Rabid UAF Supporter.
But I would like o point out a few other things, I have NOT once made any verbal attacks on this or any other posters on this blog I have remained civil at all times, I have had questions put to me from certain people which i have gladyl answered honestly using my own opinions.
The BNP supporter who called me a Rabid UAF Supporter, hasn’t made any reasonable attempt to answer my questions although they were asked in a civil straight forward manner.
Now I guess my point is I am prepared to answer questions but the BNP either arn’t capable of or just don’t want to offer the same level of courtesey that I offered them?
And this seems to me to be a standard tactic of the BNP, they cannot answer any real questions unless of course there are comments on the BNP website they can just copy and paste, or they just simply resort to frankly childish insults.
So if you want to have open debate and get peoples personal opinions on policies etc I would suggest you don;t ask the BNP Supporters as they obviously don’t want to debate the key issues with anyone unless of course it’s just about immigration which seems to me to be the only topic they are ever prepared to comment on.
Maybe that’s just because they haven’t read or understood the rest of the BNP’s policies I really don’t know.
But I would suggest you just read a few of the responses that are posted below both by me and the BNP Supporters and decide for yourself if what I have said here is correct.
Thanks for reading :D
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The Conservatives have accused Labour of “hypocrisy” over its change of tone on race and immigration.
They say the party has only begun to take action because it is losing votes to the BNP in its traditional heartlands.
BBC news website – 30 dec 2009
The band-wagon is rolling , climb aboard – Vote BNP
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Firstly I think you made an error in your dates there, we haven’t gotten to 30th December yet.
Secondly, when posting “Quotes” it is normally useful to post a link to said comment to support the “Evidence”
Wow the BNP making it up as they go along.
Today is the 2nd December 2009. Do BNP supporters think that we are so stupid to fall for this kind of manipulation ?
Wait a minute?
So with nearly 3,000,000 people unempoloyed in England.
What exactly are these people currently arriving going to do when they get here?
If they go on benefits, i dont want them here,
If they commit theft then i don’t want them here..
Is that Racist to say i dont want them here because they just happen to be coming from another country?
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Once again Mr vntbnp”, THERE ARE NONE SO BLIND THAT CANNOT SEE!!
I actually answered most of your questions, but you obviously cannot see this, once again you have spouted the usual nonsence about there being ONLY 5 million immigrants ( despite this being a cosiderable increase on your original claims) however the REAL figure , not the lies issued by nulabour, who have been covertly encouraging immigration despite saying they are controlling it, is much higher, if you opened your eyes and looked around at our country you would see this for yourself!
Climate change is cyclical and has been going on since the world was formed (see ice ages), the real figures to try & prove it is “man made”, primarily caused, our marxist leaders would have us believe, by the West, are now in dispute, and Griffin was expressing his doubts on this as being yet another way for the self hating marxists to impose yet another guilt tax to fund the corrupt countries of the third world, where NO EFFORT is made to control population!!
You seem to doubt if there is overpopulation, again just look at the figures, 300 to 400% growth in 50 years or so, wholesale destruction of rainforest to house & feed these people, overgrazing causing desertification, flood plains being settled on! If these countries leaders were not so interested in pocketing all of the aid and buying arms to slaughter any rivals, and realised that unchecked population growth will see the end of many of thes countries, the world’s food & water resources just cannot cope with these numbers!
And despite the corrupt lying self hating politicians wishes, we cannot house them all here!!
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So basically what you are saying is that NO OTHER figures will EVER matter then as they are all obviously part of the:
NEW WORLD ORDER Leftie plot to deceive the Country and the world, so ever study no matter how consice is wrong because it’s all a plot to deceive the country?
Even if that report is paid for completly independently of any Government it will still be a Leftie plot to deceive?
Get a grip, if you seriously believe the BNP are the ONLY ONES that know the true figures you are suffering som serious delussions.
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I’ve metioned the figures from the 2001 Census (are they a lie)?
I’ve mentioned the figures from the LATEST ONS Population Growth Predictions (Are they a lie)?
Are all the official figures lies?
So what is the REAL Figure, what does the all mighty BNP say is the actual number of immigrants in this Great Britain of ours?
Can you answer that one?
For further proof of “asylum seekers” milking our system, just go the the daily mail on line today & see what westminster council is paying each week to house just part of a somali family in LUXURY, not the whole of it! 1600, one thousand six hundred pounds a WEEK! This is for the wife & 7 children and an elderly mother, that is all out of our taxes, the husband & another child live elsewhere in camden. It is not disclosed if he gets benefits! The family have been in Britain since 1991 , have now got British passports & the children were born here ! Yet British soldiers, who have risked their lives for the country have to sleep in their cars or with friends because these same councils will not help them preferring to pander to the immigrants. and look at the Afghani woman with 7 kids getting 170,000 pounds a year to live in luxury in Ealing, these are the tip of the iceberg, that mr “vntbnp” and apologists like him, will not wish to acknowledge, and wonder why the British people are fed up to the back teeth with immigrant situation in OUR country!
WAKE UP BRITAIN, VOTE BNP TO GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK
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So again I see you avoided answer the questions directly, lets try again then@
I’ve metioned the figures from the 2001 Census (are they a lie)?
I’ve mentioned the figures from the LATEST ONS Population Growth Predictions (Are they a lie)?
Are all the official figures lies?
And lets not forget, so according to the AL MIGHTY BNP what is the ACTUAL number of Immigrants in the UK then?
Lets see if you can answer this time.
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In terms of people de-frauding our benefits system NO you are totally wrong ….
If they get caught doing it, then damn right they either go to prison serv a sentence then get deported, but onlt after every effort and avenue is exhausted to get bad the money they stole.
You see you get me wrong VERY wrong, if someone blags off our state I personally would be demanding EVERY effort is made to get the money back, once we have the money back send them back home (if they are immigrants) we don;t need criminal immigrants in the country.
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I’m actually NOT a softie leftie in ANY form, I have explained my reasons for not supporting the BNP which are based on policy.
Not some notion of namby pamby lovey the everyone crap, if they are here legally and paying into the system great they can stay.
If they are blagging and stealing from our system then GO THEY MUST simple as that.
I don’t like the BNP’s other policies, Economy, Environment etc I have many reason NOT to think the BNP policies will work.
But in terms of criminal (be they British or Immigrants the laws of the land apply FULL STOP no exception no stupid nicey bollox.
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Yeah The Dail Mail , thats a fair and unbiased source isnt it ? Never ran a hysterical and alarmist story on immigration before them have they ? Oh no.
I’ll say one thing for the Daily mail though , even they think the BNP are wrong.
Oh yes, the Daily Mail is a really reliable source of information on asylum seekers!
So theres no immigration problem then?
Multiculturalism in London
Film by an immigration officer showing the immigration queues at Heathrow, London, November 2009.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231795/Taxpayers-pay-1-600-week-family-ex-asylum-seekers-live-luxury-storey-home.html
https://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/
Vote BNP
Save Britain
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That is Passport Control not “the immigration queue”!
I regularly travel in and out of this country, whereas previously you could just show your British Passport and pass through , over the past couple of years they stop EVERYONE. I was told the first occasion it happened “You cant just walk in here , you know”
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