According to the British National Party website the British National Party will try to achieve the following if they gain power at the general election: Updated October 2016 Mass Immigration is the greatest threat to our precious and unique British identity. The pressure on housing and on public services such as schools, hospitals, transport networks, […]
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I am so angry that the BNP might actually get an MP elected because of the way it is exploiting people’s anxieties about immigration by promising unachievable and misleading policies to deal with it.
I also dislike the way mainstream politicians and the media play right into the BNP’s hands. We won’t beat the BNP by just accusing them of being ‘racist’ or ‘fascist’ or trying to prevent them from being given a platform to discuss their views: this is really patronising because most people are sophisticated enough to listen to the views on both sides of an argument and form their own opinion.
I am going to try arguing against the BNP policies constructively and logically while suggesting some alternative solutions:
– Stopping all immigration: I don’t know how any political party, authoritarian or otherwise, could ever hope to stop immigration. Not even if every single boat, lorry, car and bus was checked when it arrived at every sea port or airport across the country. What about the BNP’s other policies for education and health? Where is the money going to come from to close the borders?
– The immediate deportation of illegal/criminal immigrants: Deporting criminal immigrants is fair enough, but the BNP have this policy in the hope that it might appeal to those who are disaffected with the mainstream parties (who claim to support the same policy). However, the best way to deal with illegal immigrants is to tackle the gangmasters who transport people into this country and get them working in the black market.
– Voluntary resettlement: I think this would be a gigantic waste of taxpayers’ money. Denmark has a similar policy and has just had to increase the amount of money tenfold. The BNP would be better off reverting to its policy of forced repatriation!
Repatriation is discriminatory and if someone is born in this country but their parents or grandparents came from overseas then they must have the right to remain. Howver, new arrivals, including asylum seekers, who do not take reasonable steps to look for work or commit serious crimes should be repatriated.
– Positive discrimination: I refute the idea that positive discrimination has turned white Britons into second class citizens. Non-white people still experience discrimination in employment and quotas are designed to tackle this. Discrimination can be indirect and difficult to prove, especially if an employer’s offers alternative reasons for refusing to employ someone.
– Clamp down on the ‘flood’ of asylum seekers: We need to be clear what we mean by ‘asylum seeker’. These are people who have fled their countries because of war or persecution at which time they become refugees. When they come to Britain they are called asylum seekers. This is a complicated subject, but when people are fleeing a war they do not tend to leave alone (e.g. the Albanian refugees from Kosovo in 1998-9). In that case, it’s plainly the case they are ‘genuine’. To avoid waffle I’ll restrict myself to saying that the BNP’s policy is too simplistic.
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Ray, you start by saying the BNP are exploiting people’s anxieties. Maybe this is true, but why are so many people so anxious?
And why do the mainstream parties not address these anxieties?
I suggest the mainstream do not address these anxieties because it was the mainstream who caused them in the first place.
So, the logic of your argument is, the BNP should not try to address people’s anxieties, but that is an undemocratic statement. We vote out those who do a lousy job and vote in those we think will improve life – that’s democracy at work.
If the BNP doesn’t address our anxieties, who will?
Certainly not you – or others who pretend the anxieties are unreal or not-a-problem.
The problems assailing Britain today are not going to go away by themselves, and the track record of the mainstream is not at all encouraging.
Vote BNP.
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It’s difficult to explain this in a few sentences because the problems are so complicated.
My argument is not that the BNP should refrain from exploiting people’s anxieties, but that they exploit them for their own ends (as all parties do). I agree that the mainstream political parties have caused these anxieties (perhaps that is the wrong word, try ‘incandescence’ or even ‘fury’).
We are angry about the effect of immigration rather than immigration itself: we look at the pressure it puts on local services, we look at the way employers pay immigrants less for cheap work and wonder why nothing is done about it. We wonder why new council houses are not being built, etc. etc.
What does the Labour Party do? Years ago, they would have tried to regulate employment law to stop employers from paying migrant workers less money than British workers. They would have tried to unite communities on the basis of class rather than dividing communities on the basis of shallow ‘identity’ politics. They would have built more council houses rather than trying to privatise them. New Labour has written the working class out of its ideology and concentrates on identities. Hence they actually legislate to divide working class communities.
This creates a political vacuum – and who tries to fill it? The BNP of course. They extend the ‘identity’ politics of the mainstream parties to its logical conclusion, namely segregation on the basis of religion and ethnicity. That’s why I don’t like the way they exploit anxieties.
If Labour could only get back to its roots then and enact policies which unite working class communities then this might not happen.
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“If only” ain’t going to happen, stop dreaming.
Vote BNP
I agree with a lot of what you say Ray.
On the face of things (policy wise) there’s not a great deal of difference between Labour and Conservative, (one of those two will win next year) so I base my decision on who to vote for on what I think of some of the MP’s in power now and I don’t trust David Cameron (I don’t trust the Conservatives).
So by default almost I’ll be voting Labour next year, because unfortunately I see no better REALISTIC choice.
From your comments it sounds like you’ve voted Labour in the past, if you don’t mind me asking and assuming you’ve made a decision, who will you be voting for next year?
David
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David, in a first-past-the-post electoral system it’s best to vote for the party most likely to win your seat. For example, if you have a Tory MP and the Lib Dems were second last time, and you don’t want a Tory MP, it makes sense to vote Lib Dem. If we had PR then this might not be necessary.
I’ll probably vote Labour as they are second in my Tory seat.
A classic example of the ‘identity politics’ I described above has appeared on the BBC news website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/8368240.stm
One way for Labour to reunite its lost working class communities would be to concentrate on raising the attainment of all pupils on free school meals rather than just pupils from a specific ethnic minority.
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I am not surprised at Ray Boltons comments, he is reiterating the lies that have been, and are still, being spouted by the lib/lab/con establishment through their politicised media for years!
The British have always been a tolerant race, we have a proud tradition of accepting refugees over the centuries from the Huguenot’s, Jews etc. But these were in comparatively small proportions to the existing population at the time and assimilated quickly into the British population. The “nulabour” clique realising this, deliberately & covertly, opened the floodgates some 10 or so years ago to MASSIVE, UNCHECKED immigration to try & bolster their flagging vote, knowing that the average British person would accept this initially, especially if the immigrants were dubbed “refugees” complete with pathetic pictures of starving children etc in the politicised media, the other ruse was the phony “Student” scam, where bogus schools were set up! Extended families were also allowed to enter, mainly from Pakistan & Bangladesh. All of whom immediately became elible to ALL the benefits of our welfare state, housing, health, child benefit, education etc, at the expense of the indigenous Briton. Very few of these have become assimilated, in fact they are claiming more & more vociferously for their way of life & religion be adhered to by us ( halal meat, ramadan, mosques, religious education etc). Oµpenly demonstrating against our way of life, inciting violence against our troops in Afghanistan, Iraq etc, attacking them when they are returned wounded to Birmingham, refusing in the Cardiff case, to serve the mother of one of these HEROES who are doing this Governments bidding!
Now new laws are being introduced which make it mandatory in recruitment for jobs to select Black/Asian candidates over a white person, attempting to ban Christian symbols & celebrations for fear of offending other religions (no prizes for guessing which one)! This of course ignores the hundreds of thousands of the new Eastern European workers who flooded in when their counties joined the EU, again entitled to all our benefits!
However the British working man is now becoming increasingly aware of the scandal that has almost ruined his country and made him a SECOND CLASS CITIZEN in his own country, despite the continual denials & lies of the corrupt, self seeking, professional politicians of ALL the main parties. It is this awareness that scares them into making ever more scurrilous attacks on the BNP, which is the only party with policies that reflect the thoughts of the average indigenous Briton!
If Mr Bolton does not understand this then I can only assume he is one of the lib/lab/con parasites who has his nose in the trough and wants to continue to bleed the indigenous Briton white!!
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I have voted BNP on two occasions now and I will continue to do so. How dare the Government and the Tories attempt to take the moral high ground on issues that directly concern our country, bleeting on how the BNP are racist. They were all caught red handed with their hands in our pockets, stealing money from us. If the Police did they’re jobs properly, they’d have arrested the theives and put them through the courts. But then of course there would not be enough politicians to run the country!
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i would love to vote for bnp but i have no candidate in my area. what do i do?
Vote Monster Raving Loony Party, we have similar policies.
I’m a Monster Loony Candidate in the moon is made of cheese constituency.
Vote Loony for REAL change on May 7th…
reference denmark:
Doesnt Denmark have one of the highest standards of living in the world.
perhaps they have the right idea?
up for discussion. I guess
Regards
Common sense approach. We’re a tiny Nation and haven’t the room unless we start building houses on every square inch. And surely that just isn’t worth the bother of trying to accommodate umpteen hundreds of people and their baggage (culture, family, diseases, etc) on such a small Island.
British people should always have priority to a job in their own country. If any immigrant wants to work in Britain, they must respect the dominant race’s right to take benefit from their own country’s employment system first.
I disagree, jobs should go to the BEST person for the job no matter what their race etc…
I despise positive discrimination just as much as any other form of discrimination.
Our goal should be no one should be discriminated against in the UK, period.
David
Where I live there are lots of Polish people working in the fields picking veg. This is a job that could easily be done by the local English people, for the same wage, and I know for a fact that they are willing to do it.
It was once a job for the locals, it is such a simple job anyone can do it, you don’t need qualifications, but these days you need to be Polish.
My mother used to do it, and so did I as a child, during school holidays, but no more. The Poles have the monopoly while the local English are on the dole.
Our little village is so full of foreigners it often feels like I have emigrated without knowing it.
It is already well beyond a joke.
Get real David, which planet are you living on?
Vote BNP
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Lets assume Polish workers are getting the jobs over English workers just because they are Polish, (I find that hard to believe). Why are they getting the jobs instead of locals, if the local English workers are available, as hard working, working for the same wage etc… (everything equal) why would a local employer only hire Polish workers?
That doesn’t make good business sense (I run a business BTW), so if what you say is true there has to be more to it than what you have said above.
David
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David,
I lived with a Polish Girl for a 6 months in Kent (Canterbury).
The employer who was employing her was basically taking the piss out of her and her friends (polish).
I tried helping her understand her contract, because her English wasn’t very good.
Not suggesting though that there were employers taking the piss. But in her contract, it stated that she had to use their transport to get to from work – at a cost.
I know of other Polish workers who have been working here, and in there contract: They all have to live in their employers accommodation…
regards
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Also, I can assure you Britain is very much full.
We’re having to destroy miles and miles of our beautiful greenbelt just to build more houses for a majority of immigrants and their offspring. The government is having to shell out money for an extra 15,000 houses to be built over the greenbelt next year. That will cost bot our treasury and environment dearly.
Eventually, we will run out of greenbelt…
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We are becoming overcrowed as a nation,Schools are struggling to find places for the children. Many children speak another language and have to be schooled in English. This demands more resources. We need more housing and green belt land is threatened. The BNP policy on immigration makes complete sense and is for the good of those already living here,immigrant and indigenous alike.
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i even agree with you. over the past year i have seen alot of somalians then i start to see lot of polish people. these people have come here illegally, asylum or students. some may be genuine some may be fake. these people are living here like royalties where we british work day and night to live our lifes comfortably. i am british born BRITISH MUSLIM. i love this country aswell as people and i love my culture. my neighbours are christians.i also have muslims hindus and sikhs living in the same street. we all have been friends to eachother for 19 years i show respect to them and they respect me. they were all there for me when my mother passed away. i can say thay are like my family or should i say they are my family.
well i should come to the point i too am fed up with these immigrants who come here illegally, asylum or students. because of them there is housing and job shortage. but they are not to be blamed alone it is governments fa
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I can agree with some people concerns. over the past year i have seen alot of somalians then i start to see lot of polish people. these people have come here illegally, asylum or students. some may be genuine some may be fake. these people are living here like royalties where we british work day and night to live our lifes comfortably. i am british born BRITISH MUSLIM. i love this country aswell as people and i love my culture. my neighbours are christians.i also have muslims hindus and sikhs living in the same street. we all have been friends to eachother for 19 years i show respect to them and they respect me. they were all there for me when my mother passed away. i can say thay are like my family or should i say they are my family.
well i should come to the point i too am fed up with these immigrants who come here illegally, asylum or students. because of them there is housing and job shortage. but they are not to be blamed alone it is governments faults and companies fault for employing these people with less wage. i have been voting labour but not now they have made alot of mistakes. two main mistakes
1)illegal immigrant 2)wars that we should not have been involved in because it invites extremism to our country which resulted in london 7/7. this country was once safe and peaceful now conflicts and no trust in one another.
i will not be voting labour or conservative they both corrupted and let us down. i will not vote for bnp either. it will mean i will loose my home and never see my friends and my neighbours(like my family). in fact i was thinking of not even bothering to vote, but i would not like my vote to be used to go to any one. if i do vote i will vote for UKIP as there policy is more reasonable.
i am sorry for any grammer mistakes. trying to put my baby to sleep and type at the same time.
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Reply to David.
I am sure there is more to it than appears, the ‘more’ is called Europe.
And by the way, business and business sense is surely not the be-all-and-end-all?
How about quality of life?
I cannot help noticing that our local quality of life has degenerated considerably in recent years, and if the rise in support for the BNP is anything to go by, the malaise is widespread.
If there were not a real problem, the subject would not be raised, the questions would not be asked,the BNP would not exist, and we would not be having these discussions.
If you fondly imagine that all is rosy in England, then you must be living in isolation in some forgotton corner of Devon ;-)
Vote BNP – not because they are right wing fanatics, not because they are NAZI, but because there is a real problem, and you, and the existing regime, refuse to acknowledge that simple fact..
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David, what G.Curtis says is true.
I have friends in Lincolnshire and one of them worked as part of a land gang – picking veg in the fields. One day when they went in to work the whole gang were told they were being layed off. The following week my friend went to see the boss and there was a new gang, all Polish, in their place. The reason? The boss was able to pay them less money. This is fact, not fiction.
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Mr curtis says
for the same wage
you says
pay them less money
who is corect
iam Polish and live in boston and work hard