According to the British National Party website the British National Party will try to achieve the following if they gain power at the 2010 general election: The British National Party is proud to be in possession of some of the most modern and progressive concepts of democracy which are firmly at odds with the other […]
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The only political party in this country that is even remotely interested in the concerns and interests of the indigenous British people.
VOTE BNP!
The only party happy to pay for Nick Griffins Extension to be built from the Trafalgar Club donations the BNP.
The only party with less than 5% popular support across the country the BNP.
The only party happy to beg beg and beg again for money the BNP.
Oh and did I mention less than 5% support
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I was reading on one of the anti BNP sites that BNP coucillors tend not to turn up to important council meetings.
If this is true (I haven’t confirmed it either way and know you can’t trust everything you read on the Internet :)) it would suggest the BNP are not out to help the British people through running the country well.
Will have to try to find some neutral statistics on how the BNP act when in power.
David
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Just so you know the councillor who you said ‘didn’t bother to turn up’ lost his job and the only alternative was to work nights and sleep days in a new job. Hence he could make no council meetings. He therefore resigned – he was not kicked out and did not need to resign but thought it was the fairest thing to do, a councillor only needs to show up for one meeting every 6 months and he had not gone over this limit – and let someone who would have the time and correct circumstances to take over.
By the above comment you’ve proved two things; you read the media and you think its the truth.
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Jaymie I said:
“I haven’t confirmed it either way and know you can’t trust everything you read on the Internet”
Any reasonable person would read it as it was meant, I read something negative about a BNP councilor, BUT I don’t know if it’s true/false.
I haven’t a clue how to confirm the accuracy of what I’d read.
BTW it wasn’t in the media it was on one of the anti fascist websites (forget which) which is why I wasn’t sure about it’s accuracy. If I read it on the BBC news site I might be more inclined to believe it since they have less of an agenda (of course they have an agenda) than a personal site owned by someone who hates the fascist nature of the BNP.
David
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I think that if you make the effort to research these “facts” you will find that the opposite is the truth.
There have been cases of councilors kept out of the loop and not given the relevant information or sent to a false meeting etc, but that’s a failing of the establishment not BNP councilors.
This is how “Brave” The BNP are and how Democratic they are :
Oh and I forgot to mention how stupid, Ive passed this along to Swansea Hedlu who are reviewing it.
Why are people (presumably BNPers on this site) marking thumbs down on the Video that I put up which shows BNPers physically intimidating anti-racists on the streets of Swansea ?
Is it because they disagree with what the BNP are doing in the video or is it because they are condoning BNP physically intimidating people on the streets and acting in a totally thuggish and anti-democratic way ?
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Its because we know your anti-BNP, UAF
Vote BNP
It was filmed by BNPWales you Numbskull!!!
I’m glad you dislike what BNP intimidation means though. The “nice” fella at 2:49 is Roger “Brave WalesBNP” Philips
So youre just marking down posts because of who is saying it ? Thanks for clarifying that the BNP are not interested in facts , rationale or debate.
Yes well done Youve really shown yourself for what you are there. The BNP admit that they are racist, favour bullying, intimidating and thuggish behaviour.
How about you actually view for content next time then you wont look so stupid will you ?
Yes im anti-BNP and the above video is reason enough to be against the fascist bully thug tactics of the BNP. Respectable my arse.
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Funny, how if anyone bothers to watch the video it is the BNP cameramen who are being assaulted by mainly English accented “socialist worker” activists in Swansea!!
BNP have allways been scum and will allways remain scum. The BNP have been attempting to make feaces smell like roses.
I feel along with the Majority of this country completely ashamed that your British.
Its a shame the Government can’t wipe your party out. Or maybe 3000 Black people should become BNP members so that they can kick you out of your own party. That would be Justice!!!
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Yes, I am pleased that David allows such open debate.
I shall be voting BNP as clearly we cannot cope with the current influx. A problem that none of the other major parties want to face up to. I am not a racist.
I love how every BNP supporter says “I am not a racist”, is there some form of insecurity in your beliefs? Is it that you really are questioning that the BNP are as racist as everyone says?
By voting BNP you are a racist, just by voting for them. Their views are a “White-only” society, blocking all immigrants from entering the country (Which would be illegal while still in the EU, as the EU permits cross-country inner EU immigration), and to leave the EU would be complete and utter silliness. Nick Griffin is naught but a far right extremist that doesn’t understand politics at all, all he understand is hate for anyone non-British. Someone should do some background ancestral research on Nick Griffin, I bet they would find him to be related to an African, that’d wipe the smirk off his face.
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Charlie, every bnp supporter does not say ‘im not a racist’. As we, along with everyone else reading this, know there are racist BNP supporters. But you are very wrong to presume all voters are.
Griffin said something stupid 10 years ago, get over it, it was ten years ago.
His party offers policies that are appealing to many people. You personally may not be affected by issues that other people are, therefore his policies may not appeal to yourself. Its not just the immigration issue, Im talking crime,education etc. People are unhappy with the current govt taking liberties, i.e. expenses scandal. A lot of people have been hurt by the economic situation and wake up hearing about MP’s claiming for chocolate bars.
I would happily deport many English people who dribble to the dole office and refuse to work.
The govt are not strict enough on dossers. My vote is a protest vote against the govt.
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Ohhh…A protest vote, that’ll certainly change the country “Oh hey, I’ll just vote for a completely useless party if I don’t have to vote for LabConLib!”
Griffin may have said something 10 years ago, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t still stand by it, it just means he’s had to suppress his public views to gain more votes (Like your vote), watching a recent Griffin video, he managed to dodge a lot of questions related to things he said in the past (Most likely to stop him saying something he’d regret).
I am affected by many of the issues listed in the BNP’s manifesto, however I do not think we can solve problems by creating more, that’s why I’m voting for Liberal Democrats, a party which values real change from the authoritarian country we’re slowly turning into (And would turn into much quicker if BNP had their way).
And yet you bring up the ‘expenses scandal’, not knowing (Even after having pointed out in previous comments) that the Liberal Democrats were the only power who were able to that didn’t. A local Liberal Democrat MP (Not my constituency sadly) commutes to London whenever she needs to attend debates.
Those who are on the ‘dole’, while I agree some of them are very uncooperative, do usually have justified reasons for having to do so, such as physical or mental injury, being a full time parent or simply not having the skills to be able to find a job (In which case they should be in education but that’s another discussion).
I personally don’t believe the government really has a right to ‘force’ people to work, while I disagree and also do not advocate idleness, it is in their own right to not work, as it’s in your own right to voice your opinion for fascism. We don’t have to rely on ‘survival of the fittest’ any more as we’ve created a great society (Not perfect) but a great one, and I do not wish to see that society crumble.
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Charlie, I respect your views but we clearly have a different definition of useless…. and narrowmindedness….
I saw in a post you made how you said you were not a patriot, or traditional. Thats ok, but there are a lot of people who are. It figures why you aren’t bothered by a lot of ‘issues’. It doesn’t mean becasue you cannot relate to them they must be absurd and a waste of time.
If I wasn’t a patriot or someone who loved tradition then I may well not vote right wing either.
I guess its just the way we are socialised. I love everything about being English; the history, the heritage, even the rain! A lot of people don’t care about tradition, which is upsetting for many a patriot like myself.One could go as far as likening it to doing something on ones chips.
It saddens me to think a lot of people don’t even know the dates of both the World wars, yet they wear a poppy. It sadden me to think people do not care about our islands history.
How ironic some of these people badger on about embracing other cultures when they do not care for their own…..
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Wilfred, if your post was referred to myself when talking about the history of Britain – I do know quite a bit about the history of Britain, I just feel that while it may be both interesting and fascinating, it isn’t really wholly essential, and isn’t really something that’d make me vote or not vote for a party, it’s not that major influence for me.
I think our island’s history is brilliant, the amount of times we’ve been invaded and how each time they brought something new to our country, namely the Romans who brought along science, and how even the strongest force in the 20th century didn’t set foot on our island.
Thank you though Wilfred, for not responding violently (As some people would have), I can honestly say you’re the nicest BNP supporter I’ve met! (Btw. if you didn’t realise by now, I’m Anon, we had a mini-debate some pages back)
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I’m shocked that people are actually saying they’ll happily vote for the BNP.
They won’t just put a stop to immigration but they will also deport anyone who is not a British Citizen. How is that something that should be voted for?
Disgusting.
Reuben, your statement is incorrect. The BNP do want to stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases, however nowhere do they say they will deport anyone who is not a British citizen.I have just checked on their website under policies, you may check for yourself. The Office for National Statistics estimate that around 11 percent of our resident population were born overseas. As this figure is undoubtedly set to increase, there is a real danger of us losing our national identity. The irresponsible policies of successive Lab/Con governments have created this problem, voting BNP is the only option left to reverse this situation!
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You can also vote Liberal Democrats, a party that wants real change.
Even though BNP does not state it in their policies (As it would be illegal) Nick Griffin is an ignorant bigot that wants all non-white British citizens deported, he denied the holocaust and stated that he wants an all white society.
Why do you think the BNP was a “White-only” party until very recently? Just think about it Nick instead of spewing out false defensive views.
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BNP immigration policy states the following:
“- Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally;”
Good, they are here illegally so if they can be found they should be deported. Note the BNP don’t say how they will find all these illegal immigrants?
All the parties have this sort of immigration policy on illegal immigrants.
“- Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;”
Again no problem with this, though would depend on the crime (shouldn’t deport someone for a parking ticket). Labour have a similar policy now, but it’s not working so needs making stronger so it’s not costing us money to deport a criminal.
“- Review all recent grants of residence or citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate;”
What! No government should look at “recent” (how recent, the BNP mention wanting to take Britain back to the 1940s?) immigrants that are now legally British, they are here legally and should not be removed because the BNP don’t like immigrants.
So you are right Nick, it’s not “they will deport anyone who is not a British citizen” they plan to deport British citizens after they remove their right to be a British citizen!!! In effect deporting more illegal immigrants as the BNP plan to change the rules so more legal immigrants are illegal!
That is an awful policy.
“- Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;”
If you look into this it could cost over £50,000 to persuade foreign settlers in Britain to leave with their family. The BNP see this as the answer to population control so must be looking at millions taking up these “generous grants”. If just 1 million families leave Britain under this scheme it could cost the country
£50,000,000,000
£50 billion!!!
In return we loose skilled workers like doctors, nurses, engineers… that would cost the economy even more long term.
That is a really poorly thought out policy, they have a similar policy in Denmark and it’s not working, costing a small fortune to remove a small number of people for no good reason other than they don’t like immigrants!
“- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases;”
Why do we not want highly skilled foreign workers? and don’t tell me they’d come under the “exceptional cases”, if there are groups that won’t be stopped they should be listed up front?
UKIP have a policy of stopping immigration for 5 years except for skilled workers we need. I could live with that policy.
I can accept unskilled migrant workers should be avoided, but we need skilled workers for the 21st century industries otherwise Britain will be left behind. If our young people won’t get a decent education and training (it’s available for those that work hard), we have to rely of migrant workers who are willing to get off their arses and work for us for a better standard of living.
Reading the majority of what BNP supporters write on my site they clearly don’t have a very good education. BNP supporters might not see education and training in highly skilled industries as important, but it is vital to our countries long term success and if you won’t train for these jobs we have to hire in foreign workers.
If you left school with a poor education and since leaving school haven’t gained some training for something other than an unskilled job that’s your failing not the governments.
If we stopped all immigration and removed loads of legal immigrants if you are poorly educated and untrained you still aren’t going to get a decent job.
So BNP supporters please stop blaming foreigners for your failings in not getting on in life.
“- Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.”
That would mean we have 0 asylum seekers since we are an island and have no countries bordering us where their citizens need asylum.
I think we should take a share of asylum seekers, that’s a responsibility of being a developed nation, we can help those in need.
However, I agree there’s an issue with asylum seekers sneaking their way into Britain and then applying for asylum. We have British consulates all over the world and when a person enters our consulate they are in effect on British land and protected under our laws.
A better policy would be to no longer accept any asylum seekers that enter our borders illegally and insist they apply at a British consulate that is relatively close to their country of origin.
This would protect genuine asylum seekers and stop the small abuse of the system where economic migrants caught entering our borders say they are seeking asylum which costs us a lot of money proving they are not. Remove the loop hole, but protect genuine asylum seekers.
David
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The policy that reads “Review all recent grants of residence or citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate”, to my mind means exactly that, a “review”. It does not imply automatic removal. As far as I am concerned if a person has gained legal citizenship and is not breaking any of our laws (not including parking tickets) then I don’t have a problem with it. On the subject of the Danish voluntary repatriation scheme not working, Denmark is not only a very liberal country but also a very clean, pleasant and prosperous place to live, so something must be working. It’s true that mainly due to our benefit culture many of our young people do not want to work but I do not see how importing a foreign workforce to displace them is the correct solution. Surely it’s better to try and get these young people back into the culture of work. A scheme whereby people would be required to do a certain amount of work to recieve benefits or training has been proposed by the BNP. In other words to recieve money you must be prepared to do something for it!
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“Review all recent grants of residence or citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate”
I never suggested the above BNP policy meant currently legal immigrants who have settled and are now considered British citizens will be “automatic removed” by the BNP after a review of their citizenship (where did I suggest anything like that?).
I have no idea of the numbers this BNP policy would change from British citizens to illegal immigrants so the BNP can kick them out ‘legally’ and neither do you since the BNP (AKA Nick Griffin) hasn’t published detailed proposals.
What’s clear from the wording of the BNP immigration policy is the BNP plan to remove as many non British born people as possible and if that means changing the rules so currently legally settled families that we consider British will be relabeled as illegal immigrants so the BNP can kick them out for free.
What has Denmark’s prosperity etc… (I don’t care how they are doing) got to do with an expensive policy?
They can be the top economy in the world with the most beautiful countryside, but that still doesn’t remove the fact the repatriation scheme they put in place was failing and they had to offer more money to pay people to leaves, basically it costs them a small fortune to remove a small number of people.
Denmark has a population of below 6,000,000, no idea how many immigrants they have, but with the way BNP and it’s supporters talk would you assume we have more as a % of our population?
If so it’s going to cost us more than 10x as much as it’s costing Denmark to remove the same % of people that Denmark are removing.
Can we really afford to spend 50 billion to remove just 1 million non-British born families?
And do you think removing 1 million non-British born families would make a great deal of difference to our population when we have over 60,000,000 people?
To bail the banks out cost 38 billion (and we’ll get that money back) and people like you want to spend 50 billion on dumb ideas like this one with no return on the money!
I wouldn’t put the BNP in charge of a child’s piggy bank, they can’t even get their own accounts in on time and in a format the Inland Revenue etc… accept.
David
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The majority of young people in Britain today are either working or in education/training. You make it sound like half of all young people are on the dole milking the system!
“It’s true that mainly due to our benefit culture many of our young people do not want to work”
The benefit culture bit doesn’t make any sense, you barely get benefits when young, so please explain further why young people aren’t working because of benefits?
The problem isn’t our young people don’t want to work since the majority of young people are gainfully employed or studying/training. The problem is many are poorly educated and unskilled and so though we have unemployed people (and they aren’t the young who are unemployed, the worst age group for long term unemployment is the over 50s) they lack the required education and training.
The UK has moved away from the old manufacturing industries where basically a young man could leave school at 15, go straight into a manual/labor type job, get some training on the job (possibly an apprenticeship) and work their entire life in a ‘semi skilled’ job (think working at a shipyard): when I say semi skilled I’m think didn’t need an education beyond basic schooling, so it is skilled, but not a skill set like a doctor needs that requires a lot of book type studying (and I’ll accept that’s explained poorly).
Nothing wrong with people not wanting to have a highly skilled career, but it does mean we have a shortage of highly skilled workers in some sectors.
What we have now is 21st century industries (like the low carbon industries) that require more than hard work and on the job training, they need a well educated work force willing to train to a high level. Unfortunately many of our children (and their parents!!!) have the opinion education isn’t important and when they leave school all they can do is take unskilled jobs or jobs that require minimal skills and a basic education (the number of those jobs are slowly falling though hence the problem).
It was fine 40+ years ago to waste your time at school, you could get a job for life down the pit or on the shipyards etc…, but today those jobs for life don’t exist because those types of jobs have moved to countries with a workforce willing to work for peanuts!
IMO this is an attitude to education problem, way too many people don’t see education and training as important. the Labour government have tried to change this attitude, but it’s a multiple generation problem that could take over a generation to put right. The concept of 50% of our children in education or training is admirable if unachievable IMO and might help long term with attitudes.
Truth is we are stuck with people who will work hard when they get a job, but don’t want to work hard at their education and so what job they can get is limited to unskilled/low skilled.
As long as it is this way we’ll have to fill the skill shortage gaps with migrant workers who have those skills. For example we don’t have enough British born dentists, if we don’t allow foreign dentists how do we run an effective dental service for the entire country?
You’ll note everything above is talking about skilled jobs that are slowly increasing in number in our economy while unskilled jobs are falling. When it comes to unskilled/low skilled jobs like picking fruit, working in ASDA etc… I see no good reason why the vast majority of those jobs shouldn’t be filled by British born workers. So I agree there is an issue there.
David
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