This websites 2010 General Election poll has received over 1,000 votes for the BNP (British National Party) and hundreds of supporting comments from BNP supporters who argue (amongst other things) that the BNP are no longer (or has never been) a racist political party. That sort of discussion isn’t really what I created the general […]
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Is it fair to say ‘if a political party promotes racial discriminating ideologies, it’s a racist political party’?
According to the Universalsal Declaration of Human Rights, article 20 quotes: ‘it is wrong to force someone to belong to a group’
The BNP is a group of indigenous brits (nothing morally or inherently wrong with that) and doesn’t wish to belong to a group that includes non indigenous brits. Why force them to belong by insisting they accept non indigenous members, thus turning their group into something they do not wish to belong?
Feel free to pick holes in my arguement and correct me. Call me a racist, call me an idiot, insult me even… I’m in reality above all of this racism – it doesn’t move me one jot or jittle either way.
I’m only doing this (and other) in an effort to help the BNP cause
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You might be surprised to learn I don’t have a big issue with the BNP only wanting white members.
Isn’t representing everyone the whole point of having different political parties and so many MP’s, as a whole they can represent all the people in Britain? To take an example a politician can’t be both anti-abortion and pro choice at the same time!
Although as a political party in law they are supposed to represent everyone, the reality is no politician can seriously represent everyone (they all have an agenda). I understand why we have the law, but in practice no political party can represent everyone, so though it’s an important concept as a law, in practice it means nothing.
Even if thousands of ethnic minorities joined the BNP, would the BNP change their policies? I suspect the answer is no.
If the BNP only want to represent white people, that’s fine by me, I won’t vote for them as the colour of my skin isn’t a big political issue for ME.
I don’t understand why the BNP have a problem with allowing non-whites to join the party, I thought the BNP are now happy with non-whites who have adapted to our way of life? For example why couldn’t black people born in Britain join? It’s the British National Party, not the White National Party, colour of skin shouldn’t be a factor.
It’s not like thousands of blacks/Asians etc… who want to import another culture over ours are going to even want to join (the BNP are perceived as racist).
Seems the BNP are fighting this on principle rather than on the reality of the situation and considering the money they will have wasted in legal fees, it’s stupid: best to fight the fights that are important and are winnable, is who can join really that important (beyond principle)?
When the government wastes money on stupid things, the BNP supporters are up in arms about it (quite rightly so), why does your party not save it’s money for important things like paying for more candidates to sit next year?
David
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The BNP is NOT a white nationalist party, it is Ethno-Nationalist.
It’s not “only white people” allowed to join, the party only allows those who are ethnically British to join.
Ridiculous statement.
Define British?
Most people in this counry would have genes from other parts of the world.
That’s since the Romans invaded.
It also means you are more than likely to have non-“British” genes.
David – Your corrective wisdom against the BNPs’ fixation of exclusive British patriotism and debarring resident undesirables from its membership is missing in all our mindsets.
Although you agree the legalities are important concepts, Nick Griffin is surely barking up the wrong tree in his pursuit to get the party more electable through the law courts.
Nick Griffin and his followers should understand that the fundamental principle of ‘representing everyone’ is key to the success of the party.
Hard compromises must me made by us all.
Clearly the BNP party needs to change tactics, concentrating on persuasion by engagement, instead
of prevailing through confrontation.
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Take a look at this link and decide if they are racist or not !!!
The enemies of British Nationalism continue to parrot the claim that the BNP is a “racist party.” This claim is most often repeated because the BNP unashamedly addresses itself to the issues and concerns of the indigenous British population, and because it seeks to ensure that British people remain the majority population in this country. Opponents point to the fact that the BNP has an all-white membership, and that we address issues concerning white people.
If the BNP is racist for holding this position, then, we would suggest, all of the following organisations – some of them state funded – are also “racist” because they too address themselves exclusively to the issues and concerns of their respective communities:
1. Watford Asian Community care
2. Watford African Caribbean Association
3. National Black Police Association
4. Metropolitan Black Police Association
5. Black Londoners Forum
6. Black Information Link (BLINK)
7. Operation Black Vote
8. Federation of Black Housing Organisations (FBHO)
9. Black Training Enterprise Group
10. Southwark Black Heritage Organisation
11. The Action Group for Irish Youth
12. Asians In Media (AIM)
13. Barfi Culture (Asians)
14. Black Britain
15. Black Enterprise
16. Black net Community
17. The Black Presence In Britain
18. Black Search
19. Black UK Online
20. Board Of Deputies of British Jews
21. Chinatown Online
22. Clickwalla (Asian)
23. Dimsum (Chinese)
24. Doncaster Chinese
25. CEMVO
26. Every Generation (Black)
27. Jewish.Co.UK
28. Jewish Telegraph
29. MMLondon (Asian)
30. Red Hot Curry (Asian)
31. National Association of Nigerian Communities – UK (NANC)
32. Barnsley Black and Ethic Minority Initiative
Have you noticed how the media NEVER calls any of these organisations “racist” even though they are openly organised along ethnic lines and stand for the rights of their respective communities?
It seems as if every group has the right to have an organisation speaking up for its rights – EXCEPT the indigenous British people.
In reality, none of these organisations are “racist” — each and every community has the inalienable right to look after its own interests.
This includes the indigenous British folk, and the BNP is proud to be the party which stands up for the rights our folk and country, in exactly the same way that all of the above organisations stand up for their folk. https://bnp.org.uk/
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None of the are Political Parties are they, they are specific groups, and how many of them have membership rules excluding ALL other groups?
And if you are going to list the ones you “claim” do show proof of that.
Does that also make my local Business group Racist then as they don’t let people from the next county over join as it’s just for our county?
Does that make the private members club in town racist because you have to be from a certain group of people (not ethnic group) to join, are they racist against the outsiders as well.
See that bullshit can on ON and ON with a million things, but the BNP claims to be a political party so they have to conform to the rules of being a political party end of.
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“Voter2010 & votenotobnp & bmp all the way” you are the same person spitting your uaf rhetoric over every post on this website. Terence had you sussed out so you changed your name again. You are not here to promote your own party ideas, you are here solely to put BNP policy and its supporters down. You can change your name as many times as you like, but you will convince nobody. The British people have had enough of the liblabcons and we wont be voting them again! Voter2010 & votenotobnp, try and post in the relevent pages.
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For those of you claiming that there’s ‘no such thing as an indiginous Brit’ don’t be rediculous. That’s like accusing the Maori’s of New Zealand that they’re not indiginous to new Zealand. And we’ve been in Britain a good 10,000 years longer than the Maoris have been in New Zealand.
You ask ‘Is a 2nd generation black person born in Britain not ethnically British? Well I ask you, Is a 2nd generation white settler in South Africa Ethnically African? Is a white New Zealander ethnically Maori? Is a white Australian Indiginous to Australia? Are they ethinically Aboriginal? !! Not only do you say we can’t represent our own ethnic people you also say we don’t even exist! You deny the existance of an entire ethnic group altogether! How absurd. And how utterly rascist.
Because by saying we dont exist you are also offending every ethnic group in their native land occupied by other ethnic groups. You offend the Maoris, you offend the Africans and you offend the native British. Hell, we’re not even allowed our own name.
You must be absolutely appalled about the ethnic cleansing goin on in Sudan, do you think that’s rascist? Even amoungst Africans there are different ethnic groups and not only do they openly know this, they want to wipe one another out. All the Brits want is their country and their way of life protected.
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how can you be racist for wanting to be proud of who and what you are! yes there are racist in the BNP also in Tory U-kip liebour parties! but overall the people in the BNP are nationalist love country culture Proud of ancestor’s history ! the Japanese Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis ,Zulus, aboriginals are the same these nations are proud , Just the same as the British!! So no national identity is not racism! Yes Britain has Black British but most can identify them selves with foreign ancestors not so the English Irish welsh Scots who are all of European decent! and most have lineage back to the iceage
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What is it with this childish use of describing a party as
U-kip it’s UKIP
liebour it’s Labour
If non BNP supporters in the comments refereed to the BNP as the
British Nutters Party
British Nazi Party
…
You’d cry foul that everyone is a UAF member and there’s a conspiracy to keep the BNP out of power by poisoning the minds of the British public!
I won’t stop you making yourself appear childish, but I will point out I have real difficulty respecting a persons argument when they do the above. Voting for the BNP is an extreme view (they are a far right party), why make it harder for yourself when trying to get your opinion across?
Don’t get me wrong, I love a funny political joke, but this isn’t just joking around with words.
David
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Vote Liebour or the BNP white supremacists, you decide?
I don’t find it helpful when commenter’s lower the quality of their comments by changing a parties name to degrade that political party: your use of the word Liebour in place of Labour.
Since you are a BNP supporter every time you use the term Liebour I’ll post something negative about the British National Party, AKA the British Nazi Party below your comment with the same approach you use Terence.
It’s childish I know, but I get the impression it’s the only sort of approach you’d understand. Fight fire with fire.
British National Party Deputy Chairman is a White Supremacist
In 2006, the party’s deputy chairman Scott McLean was filmed making Hitler salutes at a white supremacist cross-burning ceremony where racist songs were sung and jokes made about Auschwitz.
Well it doesn’t get much worse than this for the British Nazi Party, why was a person like this an official of the BNP in 2006 IF the BNP are moving away from it’s National Front Racist roots?
David
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why do you bring idiotic comments up about one or two individuals in the BNP this does not make it A nazi party that is pathetic!
Lats take your perception
Now the worst holocausts that have happened that I am aware of where in order of casualties and genocide/ Stalin takes No 1 spot. this man is the hero of the communists Blair Brown Cameron straw Etc ,he slaughtered millions of his own nationals because they disagreed with him well over 20 million
plus a further 10 million in the Ukrain he starved them to death 3 million children .then incinerated the bodies in a far worse holocaust than Adolf
no 2 Spot another Commie chair man mo he slaughters millions and burnt the bodies,the Pol pot of the camerrouge millions he slaughtered in the killing fields of Cambodia and Vietnam Then we have the liebour party 200 serbs over 80.000 Iraqis and still counting , thousands of Afghans then they will invade Iran! last but not least the Germans(nazis) the estimation is £6 million but their is no documented evidence to substantiate the numbers
So the liebour Tory support the perpetrators of the worst holocausts in history , yet attack any one who questions the Jewish holocaust Bit one sided I would say
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David,
Why do you find the need to be so confrontational towards the BNP and its supporters?
Time and time again you have treated us to your opinion that the BNP cannot possibly win, and are therefore not a threat, so why do you continue to manifest all the symptoms of paranoia towards them?
What is it to you if BNP supporters make fun of your prefered party by typing LieBore instead of Labour.
Sticks and stones?
Have you no sense of humour at all?
You insult us regularly by calling us racist and fascist, when we prefer to be called Patriots and British.
Is patriotism the same as racism in your dictionary?
Is national pride the same as fascism in your dictionary?
Is it fine for you to insult us as much as you like, but if we dare to poke fun at your beloved Liebore, you throw your dummy out of the pram.
It would be nice, and more civilised, if you could drop your blatant prejudice, and your vitriolic allegations of racism and fascism.
BNP supporters DO have a point of view, and we DO have the right to put it across, even if we sometimes enjoy a little alternative humour.
We want our country back, that is but a small thing to ask.
Vote BNP
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“What is it to you if BNP supporters make fun of your prefered party by typing LieBore instead of Labour.
Sticks and stones?
Have you no sense of humour at all?”
Just to confirm it’s humorous to call a political party comprised mostly of hard working, law abiding MPs Liebor (of course some lie), but it’s unpatriotic to call the political party you support the British Nazi Party, fascist/racist which has people within it’s ranks who want to be our MPs, councillors etc… and are known to have fascist/racist/Nazi ideologies?
More of those BNP supporter double standards I see.
BNP supporters use words like Liebor over and over again to make it appear as it’s the norm, before I started this website I’d never stumbled across a website using the word Liebor, and yes I do find it insulting.
Respect work both ways, get the BNP drone Terence to stop using the word Liebor on my site and I wont posts damaging FACTS (I am not making them up) about the BNP right after his comments (got a few to catch up on BTW, need to compile some more BNP facts first).
Remember every time I make a comment like the one above it’s thanks to Terence making a comment using the word Liebor. I think you’ll find posting disturbing facts about the BNP will cause far more damage to your cause than Terence posting the word Liebor will cause to Labours chances of gaining votes in the next general election.
Your choice though, personally I’d rather spend my time debating policy than playing petty political games.
Also take into account I own this website and though I’ve tried to be fair and not curtail free speech I am getting irritated by the way the comments have been taken over and ruined by BNP comments. Only having BNP comments (pro BNP or anti BNP) is not what I intended for this site and it has destroyed interesting debate: when an interesting comment is made it’s quickly followed by multiple pro/anti-BNP comments that quickly degrade into personal insults, it’s ruining debate. Vote No To BNP made an excellent comment at https://general-election-2010.co.uk/who-will-you-vote-for-in-the-2010-general-election-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-2982 (I don’t agree with it all) and no one responded to it until I removed most BNP comments from the poll page (first comments were Terence with his BNP rubbish, they have been deleted)! Keep it up and I’ll have no choice but to make the comments balanced by deleting a LOT of pro and anti BNP comments.
If you want to talk about the BNP on my site please keep the majority of it under the BNP pages and not pollute the entire site with your extreme views.
David
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I’m white and I don’t like loads of white people, does that make me slightly racist? The country is beginning to wake up to what is going on with regards to immigration! Enough is enough. As soon as the membership list for the BNP re-opens just watch the membership grow. It’s filling up with ordinary people who actually don’t like what they see happening in the UK anymore, and have lost faith with the mainstream parties – too much nest feathering and corruption! Bring it on Nick!
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Well said Sue. It is possible that there will be a shock for the liblabcon traitors.
Ordinary people are waking up to the truth that immigration is costing us our very existance.
I hear a teacher in Coventry has been sacked for asking children to pray for a dying child.
THIS MUST STOP
It’s becoming like Stalin’s Russia or Nazi Germany.
Love ‘n light
john hurren
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